Jimaroid
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Would love to see what this club would make of Alice Cooper. He seems to meet all the requirements of entry.
TROUBLE AT MILL !!bit long winded
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bluewolf
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Oy, I'll have you know that I'm a very highly educated drunkard. I even passed my 11+....... Obviously I then was forced to take a job cleaning chimneys and following horses to collect and sell the manure to the local turnip farmers.Fixed - No wonder they blackballed you, Dan.
bluewolf
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The club itself is actually very friendly and welcoming. I appreciate that this doesn't appear to be the case, but it's true. They do have some very traditional rules though that some might find archaic.
Region3
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A lot of people will agree with the above.
I include myself in that group, but surely it is better for us and them if they are all together in one club rather than a dozen dotted around at each club.
As much as we don't agree with the dated attitude, we have to respect their choices, and a club catering solely for people with those values I think is a good thing.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Agree with that Gary
Have them all in one club together - then the doors locked :thup:
bluewolf
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So what you're saying is that there's a group of people who have different opinions and behaviours to you, and you don't want them at your club and would like them to stick to their own club where they could mix with only like minded people?
I think my irony meter just exploded
SwingsitlikeHogan
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All comes down to there being a simple statement in the rules of membership along lines of 'by their actions all members are expected to respect the wishes of their fellow members'
...and so we find that our TV (in our main lounge) is by default on mute and remains so if there are members in the lounge not watching the TV. If we would like a bit of volume we ask the steward and he/she asks if anyone minds the TV being turned up. This is simple good manners and respect for other members, but requires acceptance that in a club you don't always get what you want and - going back to OP - can't always act and behave how you'd want.
...and so we find that our TV (in our main lounge) is by default on mute and remains so if there are members in the lounge not watching the TV. If we would like a bit of volume we ask the steward and he/she asks if anyone minds the TV being turned up. This is simple good manners and respect for other members, but requires acceptance that in a club you don't always get what you want and - going back to OP - can't always act and behave how you'd want.
Liverbirdie
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Unless you drive a white van.......
bluewolf
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Oh it's not racist, they are an equal opportunity van hating club
ruff-driver
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Region3
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So what you're saying is that there's a group of people who have different opinions and behaviours to you, and you don't want them at your club and would like them to stick to their own club where they could mix with only like minded people?
I think my irony meter just exploded
I know mine wasn't the post that was quoted, but surely you choose a club partially based around these things, so to join one that doesn't hold your values then try to change things would be silly.
What would be the point of someone joining my club and trying to change the dress code for instance so that jackets were required in the dining room? Or me joining a traditional club then walking into the clubhouse wearing jeans?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
My club changed it clubhouse dress code very recently to allow jeans. I went for a bite of lunch today and wore nice new pair of jeans. I am sure that some older members who were in were not too impressed. I felt a bit awkward because I was worried a bit about what they were thinking as I too was unsure about relaxing the dress code. However I was totally adhering to the new rules but...
Also this is only the second time I have worn jeans into a golf clubhouse (ANY golf clubhouse ANYWHERE) - and it felt wrong
And that is the problem with change.
Also this is only the second time I have worn jeans into a golf clubhouse (ANY golf clubhouse ANYWHERE) - and it felt wrong
And that is the problem with change.
Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
My club changed it clubhouse dress code very recently to allow jeans. I went for a bite of lunch today and wore nice new pair of jeans. I am sure that some older members who were in were not too impressed. I felt a bit awkward because I was worried a bit about what they were thinking as I too was unsure about relaxing the dress code. However I was totally adhering to the new rules but...
Also this is only the second time I have worn jeans into a golf clubhouse (ANY golf clubhouse ANYWHERE) - and it felt wrong
And that is the problem with change.
If your club hadn't relaxed the dress code, would you have gone somewhere else for lunch or changed into suitable clothes to go?
I don't put golf clothes on to hit balls on the range or pick my daughter up from her lesson, but I sometimes use the clubhouse while I'm there. If jeans weren't allowed I wouldn't change just so I could get a drink.
bluewolf
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I actually agree with you Gary. One of my earlier posts alluded to this very point. There should be a choice on offer and if the Club in question best suits your wants and needs then that's the one you join. If not, then there are several other options in the area..
I just found it amusing that the general direction of the thread was that certain people would not be welcome at some posters Clubs and that they should stick to their own Club.. My own view is that the only person who should decide whether they join any particular club is the individual who is stumping up the cash.
On a slight tangent, I think the discussion of interviews is suffering because of the term "Interview". I've had to attend 3 "Interviews" and at all 3 it's been an opportunity for representatives of the Committee to talk to me about that particular Club and to give me the chance to ask questions without having to seek people out after I've paid my subs. At no point have I felt that I was being interviewed.
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My club changed it clubhouse dress code very recently to allow jeans. I went for a bite of lunch today and wore nice new pair of jeans. I am sure that some older members who were in were not too impressed. I felt a bit awkward because I was worried a bit about what they were thinking as I too was unsure about relaxing the dress code. However I was totally adhering to the new rules but...
Also this is only the second time I have worn jeans into a golf clubhouse (ANY golf clubhouse ANYWHERE) - and it felt wrong
And that is the problem with change.
THe simple problem where was you were too busy worrying what others think
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I would still have gone and would have changed - and I never had an issue with that. Difference today is that I can be out and about in jeans and decide to pop into the clubhouse - previously I'd have had to go home to get changed and so I wouldn't have gone in.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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I was only thinking what I would think. As said - I'm still a little uncomfortable wearing jeans in the clubhouse even although they are allowed - and that discomfort is only because I've never done it in the past. It still feels wrong. I felt I had to ask if I was allowed into another part of the clubhouse to get to our downstairs loos - which I was.
As I said change is difficult; and change can be uncomfortable even when you embrace it and know it is the right thing.
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It's just a pair of jeans or trousers ?!?
When it's comes to change its nothing
MadAdey
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So hold on, you had lots of people on your waiting list and now because they don't have to pay it all upfront they are now members, have I got that correct? Sounds to me like you never had a waiting list. More like you had a lot of people waiting to join but couldn't afford it.
It looks like you have someone who has got foresight to see where the club is heading, down the drain. Has it really got a million in the bank or is that just clubhouse talk, I would love to see a copy of the financial statement to back that claim up.
Chances are are the secretary hasn't got his head buried in the sand, like the old guard at your club, and can see the long term financial stability of the club is of the upmost importance.
