TROUBLE AT MILL !!bit long winded

[Deleted member 15344]

so if you knew someone was a bad one from personal knowledge and joined your club you would be ok with that,why did you care what that woman thought if you didnt have a chip on your shoulder,did you feel inferior,thats why you didnt join.

What is a "bad one"

I didn't join because it's not the sort of golf club that i would want to be a member of. In my eyes people earn elevated positions not believe they should be a given. People shouldn't judge others based on what job they do and how wealthy they are and that's exactly what that golf club does.

I don't feel inferior or superior to anyone - I'm just me.

 

[6inchcup]

I can certainly relate to this! The most unruly member at a prestigious club I know had no problem fronting up with the very high (talking house deposit size!) joining fee required. I know another club where prospective members names are published and if a specific number of negative feedback replies (possibly even simply 1) is received, then the application is declined.

@ the OP
Is the course that is having problems a 'Member Owned' course? Or simply a course owned by a Company/Person that customers/players are deemed 'Members of the Club'? There is a significant difference between the 2 imo!

it is owned by the members not a company or single person.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

but that had never happened before,thats the point 99% of the membership did as i did its the new breed that seem to have no regards for the traditions of the game,to them its cheap golf and somewhere to get drunk.

Surely your club has disciplinary processes in place and can get rid accordingly. How many are we talking about or is it the same ones all the time

 

[6inchcup]

What is a "bad one"

I didn't join because it's not the sort of golf club that i would want to be a member of. In my eyes people earn elevated positions not believe they should be a given. People shouldn't judge others based on what job they do and how wealthy they are and that's exactly what that golf club does.

I don't feel inferior or superior to anyone - I'm just me.

you seem to have a poor opinion of certain aspects of golf clubs,so you dont wish to be judged by others thats fine,but dont impose your thoughts onto me,i dont mind putting my name on a list for others to see,i would not hesitate in black balling someone i knew to be a bad un.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

you seem to have a poor opinion of certain aspects of golf clubs,so you dont wish to be judged by others thats fine,but dont impose your thoughts onto me,i dont mind putting my name on a list for others to see,i would not hesitate in black balling someone i knew to be a bad un.

I have a poor opinion of snobbish attitudes within certain golf clubs that do nothing to improve the image of golf and members golf clubs

You are displaying that attitude but suggesting that someone who can't afford a deposit up front is "a bad un"

You seem to fail to grasp that money and an interview doesn't mean that a person isn't a "bad un"

 

[6inchcup]

Surely your club has disciplinary processes in place and can get rid accordingly. How many are we talking about or is it the same ones all the time

it is about 10 who came en-block from another club,they had a poor reputation there but spent a lot in the club house so were tolerated !!!,they came with the same attitude,and have brought a few more of their friends with them,it just seems to have spiralled with other new members thinking its the norm,from what i have heard it is all about to come into the open,what has been going on behind the scenes,pity because the social side of the club was really good,just takes a few rotten apples.

 

[6inchcup]

I have a poor opinion of snobbish attitudes within certain golf clubs that do nothing to improve the image of golf and members golf clubs

You are displaying that attitude but suggesting that someone who can't afford a deposit up front is "a bad un"

You seem to fail to grasp that money and an interview doesn't mean that a person isn't a "bad un"

are you from the NORTH!! a bad un is someone you dont wish to be associated with a trouble maker,if you knew a new member was a thief would you say nothing to members in the changing rooms??

 

[HomerJSimpson]

it is about 10 who came en-block from another club,they had a poor reputation there but spent a lot in the club house so were tolerated !!!,they came with the same attitude,and have brought a few more of their friends with them,it just seems to have spiralled with other new members thinking its the norm,from what i have heard it is all about to come into the open,what has been going on behind the scenes,pity because the social side of the club was really good,just takes a few rotten apples.

We picked up loads of members from Laleham golf club a few years back. They were a little brash when they arrived, not drunk or unruly but just a little in your face and as if they'd been there years. They are now integrated and much calmer and some of the best laughs you can have. Have you actually asked the club why they took the decision in the first place

 

[Deleted member 15344]

are you from the NORTH!! a bad un is someone you dont wish to be associated with a trouble maker,if you knew a new member was a thief would you say nothing to members in the changing rooms??

You can post as many situations as you want - it doesn't change your snobbish and judgemental attitude to people based on wealth.'

 

[6inchcup]

You can post as many situations as you want - it doesn't change your snobbish and judgemental attitude to people based on wealth.'

your the one harping on about wealth,my position is if they sold aston martins for £100 everyone would have one,some things should be aspired to,how would you feel if a gang of hard drinking loud mouths who had never touched a golf club turned up at your club and joined,would you smile and invite them to play a few rounds with you .

 

[6inchcup]

We picked up loads of members from Laleham golf club a few years back. They were a little brash when they arrived, not drunk or unruly but just a little in your face and as if they'd been there years. They are now integrated and much calmer and some of the best laughs you can have. Have you actually asked the club why they took the decision in the first place

will raise the point at E/O AGM

 

[Deleted member 15344]

your the one harping on about wealth,my position is if they sold aston martins for £100 everyone would have one,some things should be aspired to,how would you feel if a gang of hard drinking loud mouths who had never touched a golf club turned up at your club and joined,would you smile and invite them to play a few rounds with you .

Was it not you who said ensuring people could pay up front ensures no undesirables can join - you have suggested that behaviour is linked to how much money someone has

Seen plenty of hard drinking loud mouths who have played golf and been a member of a members club for over 40 years.

Yes I would be happy to play with someone who has never played before - have played with lots of new members over the last 12 months - some have only just taken up the game. The person with the worst attitude and caused the most problems was someone with a lot of money and been a member of an exclusive club and was very judgemental towards others - he didn't last in the club long

As long as someone shows respect towards others and the course and the club then I have no issues at all - but those actions aren't limited to just people who can't afford a joining fee up front or someone who doesn't have an "attractive job" or someone who hasn't ever played the game before.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We have millionaires and guys out of work as well as those that are in education and retired. In general the whole gamut of spending power and quite frankly their fiscal position, other than paying their subs on time, has no resemblance to their ability to behave responsibly on and off the course. If they don't I don't care how much money they have, I wouldn't want to play with them or spend anytime socially with them either. It's that simple

 

[pokerjoke]

it is about 10 who came en-block from another club,they had a poor reputation there but spent a lot in the club house so were tolerated !!!,they came with the same attitude,and have brought a few more of their friends with them,it just seems to have spiralled with other new members thinking its the norm,from what i have heard it is all about to come into the open,what has been going on behind the scenes,pity because the social side of the club was really good,just takes a few rotten apples.

Then surely its your clubs fault and their system for letting new members is flawed.
Unless of course they knew this but overlooked the potential problem.
Or when they let you jump the queue they are not quite the people who should be vetting new members.

 

[davidg2010uk]

a million in the bank?

 

[chrisd]

Then surely its your clubs fault and their system for letting new members is flawed.
Unless of course they knew this but overlooked the potential problem.
Or when they let you jump the queue they are not quite the people who should be vetting new members.

I agree

If a number of individuals want to join en bloc then the new club really should find out more about why they want to come, who they are etc .... It shouldn't be difficult to find out about them

 

[tugglesf239]

Theres plenty of them in Wigan!! ..Sorry Wolfie

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[williamalex1]

Previously at my club new members had to be proposed by a existing member who had at least 1 years membership and also pay a 50% joining fee.
The proposer would then be held responsible for his nominees behaviour for the first year.
The idea being that he would then teach the guy / gal basic rules and the correct way to behave on the course or in the clubhouse , if the newbie misbehaved , he was then in trouble.
As for joining fees , i'm

 

[rksquire]

.....gang of hard drinking loud mouths who had never touched a golf club turned up at your club and joined,would you smile and invite them to play a few rounds with you .

For some reason I find myself really offended by the tone of this thread - not taking anything away or condoning any action that is leading to criminal /legal action or proper recriminations by the club - but to label and judge just seems off but....

it would seem that a gang of hard drinking Aston Martin driving loudmouths would be acceptable, but....

congratulations on attracting members who've never picked up a club before - that will help stem the negative flow of people playing the game, and.....

yes, smile and invite them to play a game with you - lead by example.

Also, there seems to be something inherently wrong in the admissions system - not just now, but from before when people were allowed to circumvent waiting times just because who they knew.

 

[bluewolf]

I can guarantee that the one thing that 6inchcup's club is not lacking is cash in the bank. They have more than any other club in the area. And you cheeky beggar mate. You most certainly have not black balled me . In fact I'll most likely be down for a pint in the summer to watch the Victory!!!