Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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Oh how predictable!

I thought you just made a post about "playing the argument and not the man".

That (the 'argument') was indeed what I was refering to as 'predictable'!

Please explain where I played the man?

I'm still waiting for you to justify 1) your original statement 2) how the companies you used to defend it are correct and 3) How you could suggest my comments were predictable in attacking the man and not the argument.
 

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I'm still waiting for you to justify 1) your original statement 2) how the companies you used to defend it are correct and 3) How you could suggest my comments were predictable in attacking the man and not the argument.


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It’s clear that Foxy was referring to the answer being predictable, and he then clarified it.

We are a golf forum, nothing anyone posts on here is going to change what happens to The PM, Brexit or the price of a pint of milk.

Some people here take themselves way too seriously.
 
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Oh how predictable!

But they are not good examples.

Maplins and Poundworld had difficulties long before the Brexit vote and the fall in the value of sterling, whilst not helpful, made little difference.

As for Toys R Us, their American parent company had already filed for bankruptcy before the UK operation shut down.
 

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Sort it out boys, handbags away
It’s clear that Foxy was referring to the answer being predictable, and he then clarified it.

We are a golf forum, nothing anyone posts on here is going to change what happens to The PM, Brexit or the price of a pint of milk.

Some people here take themselves way too seriously.
I disagree he never clarified anything and accused me of attacking him and not the argument. Why is this being singled out considering the other arguments going on here.
 

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Meanwhile in Mayland - we are supposed to be reassured that all will be OK because the government is stockpiling food and blood.

That's OK then - me reassured. But what could possibly go wrong that makes this necessary...?
 

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Meanwhile in Mayland - we are supposed to be reassured that all will be OK because the government is stockpiling food and blood.

That's OK then - me reassured. But what could possibly go wrong that makes this necessary...?

Damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they weren't doing it then people would complain that they were unprepared. Now they are doing it and you're still not happy.
 

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Damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they weren't doing it then people would complain that they were unprepared. Now they are doing it and you're still not happy.

But some tell us a No Deal is their preferred option - just cut and run - leave the EU tomorrow - we're Great Britain - we will sort it all out. If No Deal is going to be so great then what's all this Project Fear stockpiling fear mongering nonsense about...

And by May in telling us about this that we should all be reassured - she has everything under control...what??
 

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But some tell us a No Deal is their preferred option - just cut and run - leave the EU tomorrow - we're Great Britain - we will sort it all out. If No Deal is going to be so great then what's all this Project Fear stockpiling fear mongering nonsense about...

And by May in telling us about this that we should all be reassured - she has everything under control...what??

Isn't May a staunch Remainer, with a vested interest in Project Fear? Isn't she the one responsible for the shambolic state of the UK negotiating team, including her behind the scenes of chopping Davis' legs off at every single opportunity? How on earth he didn't resign sooner is beyond me!

Don't forget, she wants a close a deal to not leaving as she can possibly get. If you can't see that...
 

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Isn't May a staunch Remainer, with a vested interest in Project Fear? Isn't she the one responsible for the shambolic state of the UK negotiating team, including her behind the scenes of chopping Davis' legs off at every single opportunity? How on earth he didn't resign sooner is beyond me!

Don't forget, she wants a close a deal to not leaving as she can possibly get. If you can't see that...

I haven't a clue what she wants Bri...not a clue... but I can go along with your suggestion of her wanting a Brino.

Pity the ERG won't entertain that. In fact it's most probably not what the ERG will entertain - it's what JRM will entertain that matters - and I doubt that there is any deal will satisfy him.

And that is where we seem to be at. The UK will leave the EU on terms that JRM dictates - maybe supported by Johnson and others. But the way things sound today - we will leave on terms that satisfy the whims, wishes and obsessions of one ludicrous man with a posh voice.
 
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I haven't a clue what she wants Bri...not a clue... but I can go along with your suggestion of her wanting a Brino.

Pity the ERG won't entertain that. In fact it's most probably not what the ERG will entertain - it's what JRM will entertain that matters - and I doubt that there is any deal will satisfy him.

And that is where we seem to be at. The UK will leave the EU on terms that JRM dictates - maybe supported by Johnson and others. But the way things sound today - we will leave on terms that satisfy the whims, wishes and obsessions of one ludicrous man with a posh voice.

There was a comment in the press, attributed to Raab, I think it was him, that 80% of the deal is already agreed. Quite whether or not that's in line with the white paper, or elements discussed previously, I don't know. Also, the Irish deputy Taoiseach seems to be suggesting a softening on the Irish border question so as not to see too serious an impact on their economy.
 

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There was a comment in the press, attributed to Raab, I think it was him, that 80% of the deal is already agreed. Quite whether or not that's in line with the white paper, or elements discussed previously, I don't know. Also, the Irish deputy Taoiseach seems to be suggesting a softening on the Irish border question so as not to see too serious an impact on their economy.

Well all that sounds good and positive. But having already sweated the easy stuff...:)

We'll almost certainly be worse off - at least in the short to medium term (which could be up to 50yrs if you believe JRM) no matter what deal is struck...we have to be.

And as we wait for the good times to arrive - and the companies start folding or relocating and jobs start going, and the cost of our food and everything else start going up and up; and the queues for housing, schooling, GP appointments; A&E etc remain long and immigration levels remain high and with no sign of reducing - there will be many disgruntled people wondering where the promised land has disappeared off to. :(
 

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And as we wait for the good times to arrive - and the companies start folding or relocating and jobs start going, and the cost of our food and everything else start going up and up; and the queues for housing, schooling, GP appointments; A&E etc remain long and immigration levels remain high and with no sign of reducing - there will be many disgruntled people wondering where the promised land has disappeared off to. :(

Just out of interest, why are all these immigrants still coming to the UK in your scenario? Companies are folding and jobs are going. Food costs and everything else is getting more expensive. There are long queues for housing, schooling, GP appointments. It doesn't sound like the sort of place an immigrant would want to come to if they can't get a job or a house and everything is massively expensive.
 

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Just out of interest, why are all these immigrants still coming to the UK in your scenario? Companies are folding and jobs are going. Food costs and everything else is getting more expensive. There are long queues for housing, schooling, GP appointments. It doesn't sound like the sort of place an immigrant would want to come to if they can't get a job or a house and everything is massively expensive.

For there to be a difference to the queues many non-UK nationals have to leave the UK. And we know that we will be offering EU27 nationals right to remain - so the queues remain.

And newcomers? They will come as they come now - to keep the NHS and other public services going; as well as keeping our fruit and veg businesses and small retail outlets going...and as EU citizens are not the majority of immigrants to this country we'll be taking more from around the world as we strike new trade deals.

The UK will continue to be attractive place to live for many. I'd rather not be wishing for the UK to become so unattractive to overseas nationals that there is a huge drop in the numbers coming. For that to happen we are either going to be in one very seriously mighty heck of a mess (possible) or very xenophobic.
 
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For there to be a difference to the queues many non-UK nationals have to leave the UK. And we know that we will be offering EU27 nationals right to remain - so the queues remain.

And newcomers? They will come as they come now - to keep the NHS and other public services going; as well as keeping our fruit and veg businesses and small retail outlets going...and as EU citizens are not the majority of immigrants to this country we'll be taking more from around the world as we strike new trade deals.

The UK will continue to be attractive place to live for many. I'd rather not be wishing for the UK to become so unattractive to overseas nationals that there is a huge drop in the numbers coming. For that to happen we are either going to be in one very seriously mighty heck of a mess (possible) or very xenophobic.
Are they coming here to starve then. It must be pretty grim in their countries if they want to live in your projected post Brexit UK where there will be no jobs and as we rely on the EU for our food then how can there be jobs in the UK food industries.

Now, just lay back and relax, look into my eyes, not around my eyes , you are feeling very sleepy. 321 you're under. Now what was it that triggered this blind hatred for your Nation.
 

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A recent poll of nearly 2000 voters in Scotland asked 'who will be the best PM for the UK right now'.
They were given four options.

Results

May 1%
Corbyn 10%
Don't know 11%
A dead dog 78%
 
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A recent poll of nearly 2000 voters in Scotland asked 'who will be the best PM for the UK right now'.
They were given four options.

Results

May 1%
Corbyn 10%
Don't know 11%
A dead dog 78%

And the irony is that by voting for the SNP they increase the likelihood of Mrs May being PM.

Must be something in the water in Scotland.
 
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And the irony is that by voting for the SNP they increase the likelihood of Mrs May being PM.

As do the Welsh voting Plaid albeit 4 MPs but in a close election not insignificant. Think you're missing the point - if SNP do really well May is most likely PM yes, but not in Scotland.
Sturgeon is quiet presently, expect like the rest of us she is watching May's ineptitude v her rabid righters, Corbyn's unelectability, islamophobia, anti semitism etc etc help her cause.
 
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