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Rather than me missing the point l think you are overstating the likelihood of Sturgeon ever securing independence for Scotland.
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Rather than me missing the point l think you are overstating the likelihood of Sturgeon ever securing independence for Scotland.
Doon frae Troon
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Under the present system that would be the best option for an Independent Scotland..….I see UKIP/far right support is rising again in England and Wales, the irony of that is not missed on your comment.
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Under the present system that would be the best option for an Independent Scotland..….I see UKIP/far right support is rising again in England and Wales, the irony of that is not missed on your comment.
What evidence is there to suggest a resurgence in support for UKIP?
And as for the "far right" that is so far off the mark to be almost laughable.
Doon frae Troon
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Just type in UKIP resurgence into Google, that will keep you up to date.
Articles in Spectator/Guardian etc etc
SocketRocket
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Guardian. Oh dear.
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As per usual you appear to have read the headlines and not the body of the articles.
In addition neither publication is renowned for its objectivity. To hint at a rise in support for UKIP suits their pro-remain agendas.
And I still see nothing to suggest any significant support for far-right parties.
Old Skier
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Its the far lefts way a group significantly larger than the far right nutters and have proven to be far more violent.
The countries far more likely to sleep walk in a Marxist state than a far right one.
Doon frae Troon
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My reading is fine whilst yours seems to have missed the polls that have UKIP support up to 8% and running level with the Lib Dems in England and Wales. Probably due to a hard Brexit bounce.
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Yet again you are selective in your quotes.
One poll showed support for UKIP at 8%. Five subsequent polls show it at 5 - 6%.
In any event their current level is way below their pre-referendum support.
I still haven't seen seen any evidence to corroborate your claim for parties of the far right.
Doon frae Troon
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/68420...-they-think-the-mainstream-has-let-them-down/
Just one click on google and bob's your uncle.
Just one click on google and bob's your uncle.
The trend, July '17 to July '18 shows Labour down from 42% to 39%. Tories from 39% to 39%. UKIP from 4% to 5%.
There isn't enough polls in for the last few weeks to give an accurate projection but all the noise is for UKIP to pick up at least one more % point. Labour haven't been hurt in the slightest by the wreath laying controversy as the Corbyn supporters are pretty entrenched in their views, and those making the most noise about it are Corbyn detractors anyway.
The big test will come in the next few weeks. The EU are making concessionary noises about the Chequers' Plan, which many will see as a huge positive, assuming Brexit will happen. The Tory ERG group have a growing support in the party but, equally, if they damage the party too much it will be to the greater benefit of Labour. If Labour becomes more centre left they will walk the next election.
MegaSteve
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With polls having been so wrong on so many occasions I am not sure why any notice is taken of them...
Doon frae Troon
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Not nowadays, independent polls of over 1000 participants are pretty accurate.
Loaded question commissioned polls are not so good, but generally good for a laugh.
Hence a dead dog being the best option for PM.
MegaSteve
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Sorry Doon, but really don't believe there's an independent anything where politics is involved...
We'll all naturally pick out the bits that best suit our POV...
Foxholer
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I expect the ERG mob to, pretty much, disband once Brexit is 'finalised'. Their goal (Brexit) will have been achieved, even if many 'withdrawl agreements' will have been deferred!
EU has to make concessions imo! It actually has more to lose than the UK! The additional burden that UK will require, to replace much of the 'beauracracy' currently performed by the EU (partially funded by UK), will be required whatever form Brexit takes.
May has to be seen to be 'leading' this - at least from a UK perspective - something she's not altogether convincing with (or convinced about herself!) imo. However, with such 'damaged' opposition as Labour currently is, I don't believe she is in real danger from that side. As long as she can convince enough within her own party that she is the one to 'manage' Brexit, she will be safe! But considering some of the tactics and actions for recent votes, there could be some more precarious votes ahead!
Looking at the polling company yougov they've been pretty much spot on with their polls in the last 2 years. And with regards to the Brexit vote they were predicting 52 'v' 48 in the weeks up to the vote. They're worth a look.
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Anyone seen the dancing? Just NO.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45329910/theresa-may-dons-her-dancing-shoes-in-sa
She doesn't help herself really.:mmm:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45329910/theresa-may-dons-her-dancing-shoes-in-sa
She doesn't help herself really.:mmm:
USER1999
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And if she had said no, she would be a spoil sport, no fun, a drab.
She cannot win on this one.
That will be replayed so many times, remember George Bush jr and his jig? It is an image that will be burned into many a retina now.
HiGNFY will be desperate to get back on air just to show that clip over and over.
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