Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[Hacker Khan]

Also the strange thing is that is she would have fessed up and told the truth by saying that they realise the NHS is in desperate need of extra funding so they will do this through some savings here and there, may be some borrowing and through taxation then I would have completely got it.

I'm sure a few hard core Tories would have got their knickers in a twist but she could have got one over on Corbyn whilst at the same time repairing some of the reputation they have of destroying public services that a lot of people use. But as the Tory party are in such a state she has to essentially tell a lie to appease the hard core Brexiters. Stupid really.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Hopefully they will also deal with the massive waste in the system. When stories come out about an NHS trust paying £12 for a lightbulb or £8 for some plastic gloves then the system doesn't work. Why can't we have a central processing facility that buys in and distributes everything to the various NHS trusts. A buyer the size of the NHS should be able to get massive discounts from suppliers with the volumes they would be buying.

 

[MegaSteve]

Hopefully they will also deal with the massive waste in the system. When stories come out about an NHS trust paying £12 for a lightbulb or £8 for some plastic gloves then the system doesn't work. Why can't we have a central processing facility that buys in and distributes everything to the various NHS trusts. A buyer the size of the NHS should be able to get massive discounts from suppliers with the volumes they would be buying.

The level of duplication, in management, within the NHS is frightening...

 

[MegaSteve]

Waste in HS2...

A boating lake, near here, was valued at £6M but the owners have been [or are being] compensated to the tune of £25M...

What's our government doing about where our hard earnt is being spent? About zip!

Probably because they are too tied up with worrying about the Bword...

 

[Hobbit]

Hopefully they will also deal with the massive waste in the system. When stories come out about an NHS trust paying £12 for a lightbulb or £8 for some plastic gloves then the system doesn't work. Why can't we have a central processing facility that buys in and distributes everything to the various NHS trusts. A buyer the size of the NHS should be able to get massive discounts from suppliers with the volumes they would be buying.

Without going into too much boring detail, there is a central facility that buys for the NHS. It’s called the NHS Supply Chain. It negotiates prices for good and services, and has done since its inception over 10 years ago.

But don’t be fooled by its name. It owned by DHL. It charges a buying fee to each Trust. It’s not a small fee. If Trusts went direct to the seller, and some do, they would make a decent saving.

Privatisation by the back door, just like PFI hospitals, and all brought in by Labour.

 

[Mudball]

When the news broke out that the NHS will get 20b funding.. i was overjoyed..
Then she said it was the Brexit Dividend.. I was sad (as this is not going to happen)
Then she said taxes will rise.. I was down and out (given that leaving the EU allows us to lower corporate taxes, so this will go to individuals; some already paying 40-50% tax).

... it felt like I was watching an English WC match while being continuously wrestled by the opposition defender into the ground if I raise any objection to Brexit while the VAR looks the other way..

 

[spongebob59]

Lots of rumours on Twitter predicting a Nov election, hence the NHS announcement.

https://twitter.com/justinecedwards/status/1008820078555684864?s=19

 

[Hacker Khan]

When the news broke out that the NHS will get 20b funding.. i was overjoyed..
Then she said it was the Brexit Dividend.. I was sad (as this is not going to happen)
Then she said taxes will rise.. I was down and out (given that leaving the EU allows us to lower corporate taxes, so this will go to individuals; some already paying 40-50% tax).

... it felt like I was watching an English WC match while being continuously wrestled by the opposition defender into the ground if I raise any objection to Brexit while the VAR looks the other way..

Doubtful as that will break a major manifesto pledge and leave the door open for any half decent opposition to use it in the next election. If we ever get one, a half decent opposition that is, an election could happen any time the way the Tories are self imploding at the moment.

 

[MegaSteve]

If we ever get one, a half decent opposition that is, .

Anyone heard from Vince the Cable lately?

Kind of indicates the true lack of support for remain...

 

[Hobbit]

Anyone heard from Vince the Cable lately?

Kind of indicates the true lack of support for remain...

You might not be wrong there. When the LibDems made it their banner cry in the run up to the last election it achieved.........

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Isn't the Brexit dividend simply the £250(ish) million per week that it costs us to be part of the EU? Or have I got that wrong?

Whatever it might be the BD can only realistically be the monies that are left from the £234m per week (the figure after rebate is deducted but before deducting existing funding coming from the EU). Take off existing EU funding the figure gets closer to £165m (https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/).

And of course we know of real costs of exiting - and then there is the impact on the economy of being out of the EU that most accept will happen - at least for the 'short' term (however long that might be in economic terms).

So in fact pie in the sky wishful thinking from the PM of the sort that the Tories in the past have continually lambasted the Labour Party for indulging in.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The level of duplication, in management, within the NHS is frightening...

Privatise it - get businessmen to run it - that'll make it efficient - like the railways...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Doubtful as that will break a major manifesto pledge and leave the door open for any half decent opposition to use it in the next election. If we ever get one, a half decent opposition that is, an election could happen any time the way the Tories are self imploding at the moment.

Unfortunately HK for me we do not currently have anything vaguely approaching the sort of half decent opposition that I could honestly support.

 

[Hobbit]

Privatise it - get businessmen to run it - that'll make it efficient - like the railways...

Would privatising it see a gross 48% saving, because that is roughly what you'll need to generate a 25% profit to satisfy shareholders? 48% going out of the NHS is not achievable. Private business would take as much as it possibly could, and ruin the NHS - just look at the PFI Trusts that are having to be bailed out to the tune of tens of millions every single year.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Privatise it - get businessmen to run it - that'll make it efficient - like the railways...

The ideal would be a combination of the two. As Hobbit points out a private business has to make a profit and factor that in. That makes them make decisions in certain circumstances which are not compatible with the needs of a public body. However the appalling waste which is apparent to anyone who uses the services of the NHS but seem unable to be noticed by those who have worked in it for a lifetime should not be allowed to carry on. Take the good practice from both and you would have the best of both worlds. Good luck with that though.

I should add, for the purposes of balance and fairness, that there are trusts who have moved forward and are not as wasteful. Some of the practices are good, many not so good, the acceptance that this is how it has always happened etc is hugely frustrating to an outsider.

In terms of railways, I remember how awful BR were. There was no railway panacea in this country that we have moved away from.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Anyone heard from Vince the Cable lately?

Kind of indicates the true lack of support for remain...

I'm not entirely sure the amount of media coverage the leader of the third party that is very third is the greatest barometer of the level of support for remaining. But if that floats your boat then OK.

 

[MegaSteve]

I'm not entirely sure the amount of media coverage the leader of the third party that is very third is the greatest barometer of the level of support for remaining. But if that floats your boat then OK.

Fairly confident the autumn elections will endorse my view...

 

[ColchesterFC]

I'm not sure whether she's unfit to be PM but I think that she might be in breach of the new GDPR rules. I've received an email talking about the additional funding for the NHS and suggesting that if I support the policy I could join the party. That's all fine apart from the fact I haven't had a previous email from them since GDPR came in asking me to opt in or that they had updated their privacy policy.

 

[Slime]

I'm not sure whether she's unfit to be PM but I think that she might be in breach of the new GDPR rules. I've received an email talking about the additional funding for the NHS and suggesting that if I support the policy I could join the party. That's all fine apart from the fact I haven't had a previous email from them since GDPR came in asking me to opt in or that they had updated their privacy policy.

Well, take her to court.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm not entirely sure the amount of media coverage the leader of the third party that is very third is the greatest barometer of the level of support for remaining. But if that floats your boat then OK.

Not like you to make that simple error HK ..…..The Lieb Dems are in fact the 4th party