Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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May seems to have done well pulling together a consensus across the board on the Russia issue - well done to her. Credit where credit is due - though if she couldn't on this well...

And good to see the vast majority of EU nations pulling together with the UK - this of course being the EU that we have rejected and who we have told that we think we'll be largely better off apart by ourselves - and also that EU that some are so determined to tell us feel nothing but ill-will towards us.

But good on May - and thankyou to the EU - the whole UK should be expressing it's gratitude to you for working with May and providing your undiluted and ongoing support at this difficult time.
 

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Back to turning a thread on its head and making it about your favorite topic. There was me thinking Germany, France and the others had their own embassies in Russia and the expulsions were done under the governments of those countries.
 

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May seems to have done well pulling together a consensus across the board on the Russia issue - well done to her. Credit where credit is due - though if she couldn't on this well...

And good to see the vast majority of EU nations pulling together with the UK - this of course being the EU that we have rejected and who we have told that we think we'll be largely better off apart by ourselves - and also that EU that some are so determined to tell us feel nothing but ill-will towards us.

But good on May - and thankyou to the EU - the whole UK should be expressing it's gratitude to you for working with May and providing your undiluted and ongoing support at this difficult time.

And good to see the vast majority of European nations pulling together with the UK - this of course being the European continent that we are part of, have been for quite a while, and will still be the case when we leave the EU.
 

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And good to see the vast majority of European nations pulling together with the UK - this of course being the European continent that we are part of, have been for quite a while, and will still be the case when we leave the EU.

Whilst it is good to keep close to your enemies it is best to keep close to your friends and not make enemies of them :)

And in respect of what the PM has done working with Juncker, Tusk and EU leaders in not only getting a broad consensus but also getting action - I think it is fair to observe that May has done this in an EU environment that has not been 100% positive over the last 18 months. It is just as well that the EU leaders are not the nasty anti-UK charlatans that some would have them be.

So that when Juncker said that 'Britain will regret leaving the EU' we can appreciate that maybe he was indeed saying it in a 'disappointed for the UK' way (perhaps pushing it to say a 'caring way') and not a threatening way as some had us believe.

I think the EU truly believes that we are much better together with the EU27 than apart. And this event has shown what a united EU can do in supporting one of it's member nations, and I suspect that our PM believes this also - hence her ability to pull this together.

Well done to the PM.
 
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Oh dear - what a mess. Unfortunately the woman seems completely deluded and in denial about Brexit, and just rather incompetent in general as exemplified by the current immigration scandal. I thought she had decent basic principles from her belief and faith that would result in her own personal red lines. She may indeed have such red lines but seems to be willing to cross them for the sake of the conservative party.

My great hope for her is that she remembers her basics and decides to be honest with the electorate over Brexit - and specifically over the NI/EU border conundrum. Does she have the backbone to tell us that there is no border-free solution unless the UK stays in the customs union; that if we leave the CU then we risk re-igniting the NI troubles no matter what sort of border control is put in place.

I doubt she'd follow that up by telling us that if we can't leave the CU then there is little point in leaving the EU given all the other costs,drawbacks and complications.

Overall I am afraid top say that Mrs May is currently failing big time left-right and centre. I had hoped for a lot better - with her being seemingly the best of a pretty rum bunch.
 

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Oh dear - what a mess. Unfortunately the woman seems completely deluded and in denial about Brexit, and just rather incompetent in general as exemplified by the current immigration scandal. I thought she had decent basic principles from her belief and faith that would result in her own personal red lines. She may indeed have such red lines but seems to be willing to cross them for the sake of the conservative party.

My great hope for her is that she remembers her basics and decides to be honest with the electorate over Brexit - and specifically over the NI/EU border conundrum. Does she have the backbone to tell us that there is no border-free solution unless the UK stays in the customs union; that if we leave the CU then we risk re-igniting the NI troubles no matter what sort of border control is put in place.

I doubt she'd follow that up by telling us that if we can't leave the CU then there is little point in leaving the EU given all the other costs,drawbacks and complications.

Overall I am afraid top say that Mrs May is currently failing big time left-right and centre. I had hoped for a lot better - with her being seemingly the best of a pretty rum bunch.

yawn yawn yawn......
 

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Oh dear - what a mess. Unfortunately the woman seems completely deluded and in denial about Brexit, and just rather incompetent in general as exemplified by the current immigration scandal. I thought she had decent basic principles from her belief and faith that would result in her own personal red lines. She may indeed have such red lines but seems to be willing to cross them for the sake of the conservative party.

My great hope for her is that she remembers her basics and decides to be honest with the electorate over Brexit - and specifically over the NI/EU border conundrum. Does she have the backbone to tell us that there is no border-free solution unless the UK stays in the customs union; that if we leave the CU then we risk re-igniting the NI troubles no matter what sort of border control is put in place.

I doubt she'd follow that up by telling us that if we can't leave the CU then there is little point in leaving the EU given all the other costs,drawbacks and complications.

Overall I am afraid top say that Mrs May is currently failing big time left-right and centre. I had hoped for a lot better - with her being seemingly the best of a pretty rum bunch.

Various opinion polls have, consistently, since the turn of the year seen May's stature as leader increasing. Bearing in mind how badly she was faring in the polls in Q3/Q4 last year, that's a significant turn around...

That said, Corbyn has spent most of the last 3 months with his foot in his mouth. However, several of the polls have measured May on how she's dealing with some very difficult issues, not how she compares with Leonid Corbyn.

I don't like her as PM, but I have a grudging respect for her performance in difficult times. And I certainly don't see it as the abject failure you do.
 

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Various opinion polls have, consistently, since the turn of the year seen May's stature as leader increasing. Bearing in mind how badly she was faring in the polls in Q3/Q4 last year, that's a significant turn around...

That said, Corbyn has spent most of the last 3 months with his foot in his mouth. However, several of the polls have measured May on how she's dealing with some very difficult issues, not how she compares with Leonid Corbyn.

I don't like her as PM, but I have a grudging respect for her performance in difficult times. And I certainly don't see it as the abject failure you do.


Is this the same Corbyn who said we shouldn't have reacted in Syria without a UN mandate who has voted against any action even when a UN mandate has been achieved, the same Corbyn who said there will be no second Brexit vote, nobody seems to have told his 2IC. The same Corbyn who holds venezuela as the bastion of economic policies.
 

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Is this the same Corbyn who said we shouldn't have reacted in Syria without a UN mandate who has voted against any action even when a UN mandate has been achieved, the same Corbyn who said there will be no second Brexit vote, nobody seems to have told his 2IC. The same Corbyn who holds venezuela as the bastion of economic policies.

Non of which has any bearing whatsoever on if May is up to the job, which is the thread title. In fact if I did not know better I would say 'deflection tactics' or whataboutery as I am sure there is a thread about comrade Corbyn.
 
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Non of which has any bearing whatsoever on if May is up to the job, which is the thread title. In fact if I did not know better I would say 'deflection tactics' or whataboutery as I am sure there is a thread about comrade Corbyn.
Just mentioning an option. May's not been that good but compared to the Labour Leader she is streets ahead.
 
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