Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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How long until the right wing press including broadsheets turn on May?
Even the normally loyal Telegraph front pages with 'Night of the blunt stiletto' today and a fairly negative article.

Alas the one person who really needs reshuffled into retirement remains utterly blinkered to her own ineptitude.
 

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I'm not sure anyone really wants to take over at the moment. It's a bit like taking over a poor Utd team after Fergie left, whoever it was going to be they were going to get a hiding. Any new PM would have a pathetic majority, a hostile party, they are in hoc to the DUP, Brexit is dragging the govt down and they have little money to buy off the voters. Considering you only get one chance at actually being PM then now is not the time to say "me please". Better to get past Brexit and start with a relatively clean sheet. She's a dead woman walking but no one wants to join her.
 

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Well what do you know - the Mail, Telegraph and Times come galloping to my side before the usual suspects attack me and my thoughts on the May re-shuffle as being typical of my blinkered, biased anti-Tory rantings. More's the pity.

So what is going on? Well I might suggests that she's either:

1) being very clever politically and trying to save the Tory party from itself by somehow getting to the point of triggering another GE and getting Corbyn into power; with the Tories then being able to blame him and Labour for the resulting mess that she is confident is going to happen - or;

2) utterly useless at the job (as many fell she was as Home Secretary)

Note that I hear that Davis was going to resign if she created a post of Minister for No Deal; and that Maria Caulfield - the new Minister for Women - is an anti-abortionist and had tweeted support for Toby Young - now resigned (as btw so also did our Foreign Secretary - a week ago telling us that Young was perfect for the role)

And why did May not get Toby Young removed from the position when she stated how objectionable and unacceptable his words were?
Could it be 'cos Toby Young is a good mate of his boss Joe Johnson and also her Foreign Secretary - who just so happens to be the brother of his boss. Powerless and well as hopeless.
 
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The people delivered a blow the political classes are still reeling from...

Well done us I say...

Given this Quentin Letts book for Xmas, a funny read it is -https://www.amazon.co.uk/Patronising-*******s-Elites-Betrayed-Britain/dp/1472127358

Scuse the profanity, that's what the book's called!
 

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The one positive is Hunt insisting on taking social services with the health service.
Good to see one Westminster Minister has a grip on things.

The rest looks like an out of control scrabble, with ministers dictating to the PM.
She really has lost it.

BTW Toby Young resigned [if you can resign from a job you have yet to start. :lol:
 

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The one positive is Hunt insisting on taking social services with the health service.
Good to see one Westminster Minister has a grip on things.

I agree with this. They need to be joined up and this should help. There can certainly be no more excuses going forward.

I heard one doctor talking yesterday who said that if you gave the NHS more money tomorrow then at least half of it should be given immediately to social care as that will get people home, out of hospital beds and free up space. More money but not enough beds is no use.
 

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Well - things have not got much better for Mrs May in the three weeks since I last posted. She is either completely out of her depth and doing an awful job - or she is doing a sterling job trying to stop the Brexit deal heading down the very hardest or No Deal Brexit - and because it seems like she is being attacked by Tories all all complexions - maybe she is doing all that she can - and nobody could do it better.

But boy - last week standing there at Davos in that great big stage - grey faced and hesitant, body language saying 'I really don't want to be here doing this but I have no choice' - talking to a relatively sparse audience. She must be wondering how she gets out of the job without triggering mayhem.
 
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The sharks seem to be circling around May.........non of them up to much......goodness we have moved on from Johnson and Gove to Rees Mog and a couple of unknown chinless wonders. Desperate times.
 

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The sharks seem to be circling around May.........non of them up to much......goodness we have moved on from Johnson and Gove to Rees Mog and a couple of unknown chinless wonders. Desperate times.

And some are even throwing the name Andrea Leadsom back into the hat - what on earth has she been doing this last 18months? I see her sat on the Front Bench but have hardly heard a dickie bird from her. Maybe that's her plan. Say nothing and she can't say anything really stupid or damaging - or get pigeon-holed.

Oh yes - Andrea Leadsom as PM ... hells teeth.
 

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And some are even throwing the name Andrea Leadsom back into the hat - what on earth has she been doing this last 18months? I see her sat on the Front Bench but have hardly heard a dickie bird from her. Maybe that's her plan. Say nothing and she can't say anything really stupid or damaging - or get pigeon-holed.

Oh yes - Andrea Leadsom as PM ... hells teeth.

Who would you choose? Party politics aside, who is a competent politician? I don't like Nicola Sturgeon's politics but I think she is a very competent politician. Equally, I like the way David Davies performs in interview, and I'd like to think that he is that competent behind closed doors. I like the way Corbyn speaks, and his social conscience but I also feel it hides a cynical opportunist whose politics frighten me.

Your choices?
 

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Who would you choose? Party politics aside, who is a competent politician? I don't like Nicola Sturgeon's politics but I think she is a very competent politician. Equally, I like the way David Davies performs in interview, and I'd like to think that he is that competent behind closed Joors. I like the way Corbyn speaks, and his social conscience but I also feel it hides a cynical opportunist whose politics frighten me.

Your choices?

From the Conservatives? Jeremy Hunt. David Davies seems to think it's all a bit of a wheeze - that a chortle and smile allows him to get away with blue murder. Brexit is that serious - and he just isn't.

Also don't mind Amber Rudd - an ex venture capitalist so will know a bit about money - but her majority probably too small. Of ardent Brexiteers I honestly don't go for any of them as I believe they are all either totally obsessed with leaving the EU - at whatever cost - or are happy to go along with whatever they think is good for themselves personally - rather than the country.

I'd probably think the same about Jeremy Hunt if he was not my MP and I had not spoken with him a few times. But I await his reply to my most recent Email - at which point I might chop his head off also.

I like Ruth Davidson. How it would go down were we to have another Scot as UK Prime Minister I am not so sure. And she'd need a seat - maybe she can have that of our duplicitous and conninving FS....

I should add that I struggle very badly with Corbyn. If today I had to choose between May and Corbyn I am not sure who I would go for. The best I can say about Corbyn is that at least he seems to stick to his guns and be consistent in what he has said over the last 4 decades. But that does not make me want to vote for him.
 
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From the Conservatives? Jeremy Hunt. David Davies seems to think it's all a bit of a wheeze - that a chortle and smile allows him to get away with blue murder. Brexit is that serious - and he just isn't.

Also don't mind Amber Rudd - an ex venture capitalist so will know a bit about money - but her majority probably too small. Of ardent Brexiteers I honestly don't go for any of them as I believe they are all either totally obsessed with leaving the EU - at whatever cost - or are happy to go along with whatever they think is good for themselves personally - rather than the country.

I'd probably think the same about Jeremy Hunt if he was not my MP and I had not spoken with him a few times. But I await his reply to my most recent Email - at which point I might chop his head off also.

I like Ruth Davidson. How it would go down were we to have another Scot as UK Prime Minister I am not so sure. And she'd need a seat - maybe she can have that of our duplicitous and conninving FS....

I should add that I struggle very badly with Corbyn. If today I had to choose between May and Corbyn I am not sure who I would go for. The best I can say about Corbyn is that at least he seems to stick to his guns and be consistent in what he has said over the last 4 decades. But that does not make me want to vote for him.

Yep, Corbyn had a real chance for power and unity.
He totally blew it with his first visit to Scotland, he said all the wrong things. He totally misunderstood the Scottish political scene [probably badly briefed by Slab MP's], and showed a poor knowledge on devolved issues.
England alone cannot give him the support he needs.
 

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Weak; No Leadership; No Vision; Cowed by hardline Eurosceptics; Hopeless; swamped by Brexit; Trying to appease all sides of the Tory Party while trying to deliver the impossible; pushed into triggering Article 50 far too early - stuck with a 'wish list' of objectives cobbled together to pacify the hardline Eurosceptics - but with no plan to deliver a realistic and achievable Brexit.

On Day 1 following her becoming PM I heard words that I liked the sound of - but since then I have seen nothing that puts any substance behind these good words...

Maybe I should hope she goes sooner rather than later - for her sanity and health - with a wish that one of Johnson, Gove, Davis, Leadsom or Rees-Mogg get the PMship. If all goes well with the negotiations and a good deal is forthcoming then they can take the credit - if we end up with a poor deal or no deal - then they can explain the mess to the country and tell us how they are going to get us out of that mess.
 
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