Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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Shock horror, MP avoids answering questions - read all about it. It was a daft time for an interview. None of the party leaders should be interviewed BEFORE manifestos come out.

Glad to hear you are like me, and are so compliant and unquestioning about a potential leader of this country and their seemingly avoidance of any hard subjects in one of the most divisive periods in the countries recent history. I also for one know my place, and wait for any information the lovely fragrant Mrs May deems important enough to tell me. But if she doesn't then no worries, I know she must be very busy.....
 

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Not compliant but don't see where any decent questions on policy could come from as nothing has been published. As to not coming clean on answering questions try naming a politician who does. I unlike others im not selective in my mistrust of anything that comes out of Westminster.
 

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Not compliant but don't see where any decent questions on policy could come from as nothing has been published. As to not coming clean on answering questions try naming a politician who does. I unlike others im not selective in my mistrust of anything that comes out of Westminster.

She has proclaimed HERSELF as one who does...
 

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And you believe her. Ye right, you don't believe anything else she says but you believe that.

You asked me to name a politician - I didn't have to. The PM named herself.

And you are quite right I don't believe her - but she wants everyone else to believe her. Do you? And if you don't, why are you willing to put up with a PM who says one thing and does the opposite. Why should anyone believe anything she says if you know before she is elected that she is duplicitous.

Or are we heading down the Trump route where he is shameless in telling us one thing one day, and saying a quite different thing about it - indeed contradicting himself - a few days later - and to him and his Trumpist acolytes such behaviour does not matter. Are you really willing to sit back uncritically and accept such behaviour from Theresa May.

Do you care that she would not commit to raising income tax over 2017-2022 - when she is selling herself and the Tories as the party for cutting Income Tax - unlike Labour and the LibDems who will raise income tax? Do you care about deception and potentially being lied to? Do you? And I am asking these simple questions in the context of the Theresa May and the Tories.
 
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I'm a realist, I go for the best of a bad bunch.

And so you accept that she is not what she makes herself out to be - she is pretty much just like all the rest

Good luck...I'm not voting for her and her mob - I'll leave that for others to do and to then explain by 2022 how things have turned out so well.
 

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And so you accept that she is not what she makes herself out to be - she is pretty much just like all the rest

Good luck...I'm not voting for her and her mob - I'll leave that for others to do and to then explain by 2022 how things have turned out so well.

You automatically seem to think she's the best then. And where did I say I was voting for her. Only one I won't be voting for is Labour.
 

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You automatically seem to think she's the best then. And where did I say I was voting for her. Only one I won't be voting for is Labour.

Sorry - I added 2+2 and got 4 from your comment that you'd be going for the best of a bad bunch.

I think she is the best then? - oh - not quite sure how you make that out - but I can happily disabuse you of that notion.
 

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Sorry - I added 2+2 and got 4 from your comment that you'd be going for the best of a bad bunch.

I haven't seen any proposals or manifestos apart from leaked ones so I am unable at this time to make an informed decision which is the way I deal with elections, not with some pre conceived idea. You chucked two numbers in the air and came away with the number you preferred.
 

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And you are quite right I don't believe her - but she wants everyone else to believe her. Do you? And if you don't, why are you willing to put up with a PM who says one thing and does the opposite. Why should anyone believe anything she says if you know before she is elected that she is duplicitous.

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Blair lied about WMD and tuition fees.

Cameron lied about staying on if the Brexiteers won.

May lied about calling an election.

Corbyn lies when he opens his mouth.

Stop worrying yourself about what they say when asked a question, analyse the manifestos instead.
 

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Blair lied about WMD and tuition fees.

Cameron lied about staying on if the Brexiteers won.

May lied about calling an election.

Corbyn lies when he opens his mouth.

Stop worrying yourself about what they say when asked a question, analyse the manifestos instead.

I wish it were about the manifesto. Listen to May and it is all about giving her a mandate to negotiate Brexit. I fear little else will matter.

And I am, really, really not worried. I may be irritated and frustrated - but hey - that's for me to deal with,
 
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I haven't seen any proposals or manifestos apart from leaked ones so I am unable at this time to make an informed decision which is the way I deal with elections, not with some pre conceived idea. You chucked two numbers in the air and came away with the number you preferred.

So when you said you'd go for the best of the bad bunch when this is a thread about May who are your candidates - Nuttall in there is he? Farron? And all this talk from May about Coalition of Chaos; Strong and Stable - none of that matters for you.

Excellent. Glad to hear that you will not be swayed by mere words and headlines from the usual suspects - but that it will be the manifestos that matter.
 

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So when you said you'd go for the best of the bad bunch when this is a thread about May who are your candidates - Nuttall in there is he? Farron? And all this talk from May about Coalition of Chaos; Strong and Stable - none of that matters for you.

Excellent. Glad to hear that you will not be swayed by mere words and headlines from the usual suspects - but that it will be the manifestos that matter.

Unlike you who has already made up your mind without a shred of data to Base it on. You sound like one of those historic voters where nothing would change year on year.
 

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So when you said you'd go for the best of the bad bunch when this is a thread about May who are your candidates - Nuttall in there is he? Farron? And all this talk from May about Coalition of Chaos; Strong and Stable - none of that matters for you.

Excellent. Glad to hear that you will not be swayed by mere words and headlines from the usual suspects - but that it will be the manifestos that matter.

So who do you favour?

In terms of PM material I can't see past May, which makes it painful because I don't like many of the Tory policies.
 

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So who do you favour?

In terms of PM material I can't see past May, which makes it painful because I don't like many of the Tory policies.

In truth - May will be PM. I would have voted Labour - but Corbyn? nope. Largely because of the mess he has made of the Labour position on the EU debate. If there is a Progressive Alliance candidate then she will get my vote - if not then LibDems. So Tim Farron for PM - hurrah!

I thought that May was PM material. But day by day - and yesterday evenings performance just confirmed it for me - she's actually verging on hopeless. Just not up to it.

Bring back Tony.
 

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In truth - May will be PM. I would have voted Labour - but Corbyn? nope. Largely because of the mess he has made of the Labour position on the EU debate. If there is a Progressive Alliance candidate then she will get my vote - if not then LibDems. So Tim Farron for PM - hurrah!

I thought that May was PM material. But day by day - and yesterday evenings performance just confirmed it for me - she's actually verging on hopeless. Just not up to it.

Bring back Tony.
Don't they have male candidates ?
 

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In truth - May will be PM. I would have voted Labour - but Corbyn? nope. Largely because of the mess he has made of the Labour position on the EU debate. If there is a Progressive Alliance candidate then she will get my vote - if not then LibDems. So Tim Farron for PM - hurrah!

I thought that May was PM material. But day by day - and yesterday evenings performance just confirmed it for me - she's actually verging on hopeless. Just not up to it.

Bring back Tony.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the policies or the manifesto promises of the Progressive Alliance? Looking at the website there doesn't seem to be anything being a Stop the Tories message; no policy on Europe, Health, Immigration, Policing, Taxation, nothing but wouldn't it be clever to stop the Tories.

Coalition of Chaos sounds about right. There doesn't seem to be a plan after they've stopped them. Wasn't that part of your issue with Brexit, the lack of a plan, yet you'd be happy to vote for that here?
 

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So who do you favour?

In terms of PM material I can't see past May, which makes it painful because I don't like many of the Tory policies.

David Milliband 😁. He is an option isn't he? I had a weird dream that his rubbish brother won instead and then some little known fringe MP followed him. Strange dream, must have eaten something strange.
 

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Still not sure I've seen an explanation on how The Supreme Leader will deliver nett immigration in the 10s of thousands, given #1 Brexit guru and champion @SR has told us repeatedly that immigration will be managed to the level that the economy requires.

And also what happens to the nett 167,000 non-EU immigrants - many of whom voted to Leave on the understanding that the rules would be relaxed to enable more from South Asia to come to the UK post Brexit.
 
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