Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And so let's see how the great leader fares under questioning from Nick Ferrari and LBC listeners this evening 7pm-7:30pm.

Ferrari is a Brexiteer with Tory supporting inclinations - but is a fearless and forensic questioner - and I believe him when he says his questions and those of listeners will not be shared with the PM beforehand.

Looking forward to it.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/elections/general-election-2017/leaders-live/

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Do the words 'comes with the good' not register with you?

Good point, though irrelevant to that particular debate and maybe simply similar scaremongering to what the Right wing 'gutter' (or is that gutter Right Wing) press are pushing, about the possibility of 'bad things to deal with' though!

Thankyou @Foxholer - I was very careful to recognise that there may well be some good to come out of Brexit. Pity that was missed.

And yes - love it that at the merest sniff or suggestion that anything other than total severance with the EU might come about - the Right Wing press start flying their own Project Fear flag and telling us how dreadful the EU is and how disastrous it would be to Remain....

But wasn't Remaining what the previous Home Secretary was a strong advocate of...oh never mind - that's too difficult a question for some - though she will be asked that question by Ferrari this evening. I wonder what her answer will be.

 

[Hobbit]

But wasn't Remaining what the previous Home Secretary was a strong advocate of...oh never mind - that's too difficult a question for some - though she will be asked that question by Ferrari this evening. I wonder what her answer will be.

Last year you had a thread about the Tories not enacting the will of the people. Now you're criticising the PM for enacting the binary choice irrespective of her personal beliefs.

C'mon, if she said purple you'd say green if it suited your argument.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

She is the First Minister of Scotland.........everyone happy that Nicola Sturgeon tells outright lies (fake news) to gain political advantage over an opposing party leading up to an election.
She should show some honesty and apologise.

If you were willing to take your blinkers off for a few minutes you would see that it works both ways. Or did you miss/choose to ignore Sturgeon's "outright lies" (fake news) on the Scottish fishing industry? I guess you can't claim not to have seen them as you posted the link to them in the first place.

Well done........The usual right wing diversion when they do not have an honest reply.

Show me when Nicola lied about the Scottish Fisheries [absolute proof please]
Considering an agreement will not be reached within 12 months that will take some doing.

Mays lies about the SNP breaking electoral law was debunked within minutes.

 

[Hobbit]

Well done........The usual right wing diversion when they do not have an honest reply.

Show me when Nicola lied about the Scottish Fisheries [absolute proof please]
Considering an agreement will not be reached within 12 months that will take some doing.

Mays lies about the SNP breaking electoral law was debunked within minutes.

Absolutely give you the one on SNP electoral expenses but the fisheries one is spin on what was really said. The truth was that the UK side said there may have to be concessions and adopting of EU rules for British industry post-Brexit. At no time was the Scottish fishing industry mentioned by name.

SNP spin and lies on that one.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Well done........The usual right wing diversion when they do not have an honest reply.

Show me when Nicola lied about the Scottish Fisheries [absolute proof please]
Considering an agreement will not be reached within 12 months that will take some doing.

Mays lies about the SNP breaking electoral law was debunked within minutes.

Well done...... the usual left wing diversion to brand anyone that disagrees with them as right wing when they don't have an honest reply.

How about quotes such as "Tories are planning to sell out Scottish fishing - again" or "clear that the Tories are planning another fisheries sell out". By selectively leaking parts of a letter (rather than the whole document and letting the public make up their own minds) Sturgeon and the SNP are at the very least lying by omission or alternatively spreading fake news for political gain.

Unlike you I am prepared to criticise politicians from any party when they deserve it. Theresa May was wrong about the SNP being fined for election expenses and at the very least should publicly withdraw the remark, and in my opinion apologise as well - slim chance of that happening. And equally Sturgeon was wrong with her comments on the Scottish fishing industry and should also publicly withdraw her comments.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Well done...... the usual left wing diversion to brand anyone that disagrees with them as right wing when they don't have an honest reply.

How about quotes such as "Tories are planning to sell out Scottish fishing - again" or "clear that the Tories are planning another fisheries sell out". By selectively leaking parts of a letter (rather than the whole document and letting the public make up their own minds) Sturgeon and the SNP are at the very least lying by omission or alternatively spreading fake news for political gain.

Unlike you I am prepared to criticise politicians from any party when they deserve it. Theresa May was wrong about the SNP being fined for election expenses and at the very least should publicly withdraw the remark, and in my opinion apologise as well - slim chance of that happening. And equally Sturgeon was wrong with her comments on the Scottish fishing industry and should also publicly withdraw her comments.

Deary me, is that the best you can come up with.

An absolute lie against some standard politics that both sides do every day.
If you could read the anti SNP comments in the Unionist newspapers in Scotland you would probably get your eyes opened very wide


At least we agree that May should withdraw her downright lie.

 

[ColchesterFC]

At least we also agree that it is standard politics for the SNP to lie for political gain.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

No I do not, there is a clear line between the two examples and I think lesser of you that you chose to ignore it.

 

[Old Skier]

No I do not, there is a clear line between the two examples and I think lesser of you that you chose to ignore it.

Its the internet, I'm sure your one sided intolerance gives him sleepless nights. How's your geography coming along.

 

[ColchesterFC]

No I do not, there is a clear line between the two examples and I think lesser of you that you chose to ignore it.

Theresa May says something that is not true and you are quick to call it a lie. Nicola Sturgeon says something that is not true and you are quick to defend her. It's just a shame that the clear line between the two is in your case drawn along party political lines. You've proven time and again that you are unprepared to accept even the mildest criticism of Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP so why did I expect anything different in this case?

 

[SocketRocket]

Its the internet, I'm sure your one sided intolerance gives him sleepless nights. How's your geography coming along.

Not so good, he thinks the Dutch are invading Holland.

 

[ger147]

Not so good, he thinks the Dutch are invading Holland.

Just wait till the Netherlands finds out...

 

[SocketRocket]

Just wait till the Netherlands finds out...

The Netherlands are threatening to send in a peace keeping force. Doom thinks this is bad news for Preston.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. That interview was dire. And that wasn't just the questioning by Nick Ferrari - serious 'let-down' and subject of much criticism by LBC listeners mailing, texting and calling into his programme this morning.

And so we have a strong, confident, honest and straight Prime Minister? Do we really...

Income Tax plans for the next parliament - avoid
Immigration - 10s of thousands how? - avoid
Brexit - nirvana - really?
Cameron stating that the GE was called to (at least in part) enable the PM to face-down Hard Brexiteers in her part - avoid

But she knew how the size of the Army - so that's OK then.

Hesitancy, waffle, uncertainty - just what we need up against Barnier, Tusk, Verhofstadt et al. Just as well she's not going to be leading the negotiations.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Last year you had a thread about the Tories not enacting the will of the people. Now you're criticising the PM for enacting the binary choice irrespective of her personal beliefs.

C'mon, if she said purple you'd say green if it suited your argument.

Which 'will' bit was that? I can't remember?

But of course whilst Leaving the EU was a binary choice, and indeed that choice has been made, the fact that there are multiple outcomes of leaving means that the PM does not need to simply choose one path to follow - and to all intents and purposes that is what she is currently saying she is doing - out of the EU means out of the SM and out of the CU - with relatively painless re-engagement with the EU on a free trade agreement.

That a larger Tory majority in Westminster following the GE would enable the PM to look at alternative routes out of the EU , with alternative outcomes, seems to be just what Cameron expects her to be doing,

 

[Hobbit]

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. That interview was dire. And that wasn't just the questioning by Nick Ferrari - serious 'let-down' and subject of much criticism by LBC listeners mailing, texting and calling into his programme this morning.

And so we have a strong, confident, honest and straight Prime Minister? Do we really...

Income Tax plans for the next parliament - avoid
Immigration - 10s of thousands how? - avoid
Brexit - nirvana - really?
Cameron stating that the GE was called to (at least in part) enable the PM to face-down Hard Brexiteers in her part - avoid

But she knew how the size of the Army - so that's OK then.

Hesitancy, waffle, uncertainty - just what we need up against Barnier, Tusk, Verhofstadt et al. Just as well she's not going to be leading the negotiations.

I listened to some of it last night but was more disappointed with Ferrari. Like Andrew Marr the week before, I thought she got an easy ride from him. As for the avoidance, yes it was there but no different than Corbyn. In fact, Corbyn has issued a statement today saying he would use our forces if it was really needed - only a week after some serious questions on it, which he dodged and dodged and dodged - not exactly strong and stable!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I listened to some of it last night but was more disappointed with Ferrari. Like Andrew Marr the week before, I thought she got an easy ride from him. As for the avoidance, yes it was there but no different than Corbyn. In fact, Corbyn has issued a statement today saying he would use our forces if it was really needed - only a week after some serious questions on it, which he dodged and dodged and dodged - not exactly strong and stable!

She did - I was most disappointed in Ferrari - and so were many of his listeners judging by the feedback he received this morning.

And as far as avoidance - I ask to put comparative comments and reflections on Corbyn aside for the moment and consider May for her own performance.

She has gone on and on about what is core to her politics, and what makes her different from others - her strength, clarity, honesty and being 'straight' with the public. And yesterday evening she just wasn't any of these (the personal stuff aside). And as soon as I see that there is in fact a good deal of Emperor's New Clothes about her portrayal of her political and personal characteristics; that she is not actually that different - if different at all - from 'the rest of them', then perhaps we can look at policies rather than see her as some present day Boudica in some imaginary face-2-face stand-off against the might of the Roman Empire.

 

[Old Skier]

Shock horror, MP avoids answering questions - read all about it. It was a daft time for an interview. None of the party leaders should be interviewed BEFORE manifestos come out.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Shock horror, MP avoids answering questions - read all about it. It was a daft time for an interview. None of the party leaders should be interviewed BEFORE manifestos come out.

She is not just an MP - she is the PM seeking a personal mandate - and she is a PM who talks about how important her honesty and straight-talking is - the things that we should admire in her and that form the basis for why we should vote for her. So why on earth are you willing to accept her avoiding answering questions and being disingenuous about what she feels she can achieve from leave negotiations.

I might suggest May wanted to be first to get it out of the way as soon as possible. Now done she can avoid being interviewed in such a forum again - and she and her advisers will hope that any errors or difficulties of yesterday evening will be forgotten in the coming weeks and as others are interviewed. She can now wrap herself up in the flag and self-proclaimed suit of armour to smite all those who might oppose her.