Old Skier
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I don't care, I just want her to win now although I personally might vote Lib Dem just so SILH can continue his ever magnificent rants and perhaps, insist on another election because he didn't like the results
Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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At least with GEs the Great British Public gets a repeat go every 5 yrs if we don't like the outcome of our previous decision / settled will. When we find out that some of the things we were promised didn't happen, and some things we were told wouldn't happen or weren't told about at all - did
mini rant? well it's over...
SwingsitlikeHogan
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At moment listening to radio outside broadcast ahead of Theresa May speech - did I hear her ringtone go off in the background? I'm sure it was 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' - but I might have been imagining things
Old Skier
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At moment listening to radio outside broadcast ahead of Theresa May speech - did I hear her ringtone go off in the background? I'm sure it was 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' - but I might have been imagining things
She is a very religious person.
Raesy92
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Apologies if this is somewhat hijacking the thread, but what is it that everyone seems to hate about Jeremy Corbyn?
Everyone states that politicians are liars and can't trust any of them, where as Corbyn seems to stick to his principles and is not liked by many? BTW I am not a Labour voter, and probably won't vote them in this election. However they have produced a very promising manifesto and seem to be based on Corbyn's principles.
Everyone states that politicians are liars and can't trust any of them, where as Corbyn seems to stick to his principles and is not liked by many? BTW I am not a Labour voter, and probably won't vote them in this election. However they have produced a very promising manifesto and seem to be based on Corbyn's principles.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Absolutely nothing about Corbyn that I hate - or indeed particularly dislike - he talks a lot of sense and promotes considerate and compassionate policies.
I was very disappointed that he took such a weak position in the EU ref debate. Unfortunately I just don't think he has a chance of becoming PM. The Right Wing Press - followed and quoted assiduously by Fervent Brexiteers; Socialism and Left Wing haters and acolytes of The Supreme Leader - just make that very near impossible.
Maybe not a Corbyn lover - most certainly not a Corbyn hater.
And why there so many here? Well - it's a pan-UK golf forum...and too many folks across the UK these days suffer from the worst form of 'ism'. (I Self Me). And if you got that 'ism' then you ain't going to like Corbyn. And this forum is just a sample of a specific demographic, and so more nor less likely to suffer from that 'ism'
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I don't hate him, nor do I think I hate anyone.
So what has led me to dislike Corbyn as a politician? Whilst I agree that ultimately the only way to settle conflict is with dialogue, it has to be conducted at governmental levels. It may even be behind closed doors and off the radar, e.g. the Thatcher and Blair govts dealings with the IRA. Whilst those behind the doors discussions/negotiations are going the public stance has to be to condemn violence.
Not to do so legitimises the use of violence in a conflict. It undermines the government's position and engenders support for the terror organisation.
Where those terror organisations are operating in a foreign conflict, e.g. Hamas and Hezbollah in Palestine/Isreal, an MP from a foreign country should not get involved. Corbyn inviting Hamas and Hezbollah to the steps of Westminster was wrong on so many different levels. For example, how would that be reported in the Beirut Gazette? "British politician supports the armed struggle in Palestine." And what would that do for our relations with the government of that country?
Behind the scenes I dare say the Foreign Office were trying to help end the conflict, along with many countries around the world. Having Corbyn undermine those efforts and, potentially, add legitimacy to a terror organisation is, in my eyes wholly wrong.
Then move onto his obvious lack of commitment to the defence of the UK and its NATO allies... he doesn't leave me feeling secure.
As a person I like him, and I like many of his social values. I also like an awful lot of what is in the Labour manifesto. But lets look at the cost of renationalisation. Where are Labour going to get £XXX billion from for just some of the renationalisation? And if they can get that much money via taxation, plough it into the NHS and Education first.
Ah, but all we have to do with the railways is let the franchises run out. And no doubt the nationalised railways would have to find an absolute fortune to replace the old rolling stock that the franchisee hasn't replaced after Labour take office.
Corbyn himself said in an interview with the BBC that the cost of renationalisation hasn't been identified because we won't know the share price we will agree on with the owners.
The Labour manifesto, in a number of key areas, is a cuddly, lets make the people feel warm document that is a fairy tale. There's some good in there that do-able, but there's too much in there that isn't do-able without bankrupting the country(again).
But Labour has to be viewed beyond one person. Corbyn, nice guy, passionate and caring. Come across better than I originally thought, and I warm to him up to a point. McDonnell, out and out Marxist and, occasionally, sounds like a bully - don't trust him. Abbott, I'd get an infraction for saying what I think about her politics and racism.
Would I vote Labour, not in its current form but yes if it was more centre-ist, as in Blair's early days before his God complex.
FairwayDodger
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Does anyone think rail franchises are replacing rolling stock as their term runs out regardless of whether they're being renationalised or up for retender?
ArnoldArmChewer
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Just noticed quite a lot of new carriages on my journey into London from Hertfordshire, so someone is spending money, plus we do have a very good, reliable and frequent service.
Doon frae Troon
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This strong and stable Tory government seems to be destroying many of the previous strong and stable Tory governments policies.
FairwayDodger
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How long left in the franchise?
And that rolling stock has a value. The franchise is to run a railway. When a Franchise is sold to a different company, the stock is usually sold from the previous franchisee to the new franchisee. The stock won't revert to govt ownership at the end of each franchise. Even if the franchises are left to run down, what price the stock to sell back to the govt?
When British Rail was privatised the stock sold to the franchisees was appalling, as was time keeping etc. The service we have now, for all the complaints, is a whole load better than what we previously had.
FairwayDodger
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And tickets are a whole load more expensive? To be honest, I haven't got a strong view on railway nationalisation but find it hard to sift through the dogma on both sides.
There's multiple franchises, many having different end dates, e.g. Arriva Northern renewed there's last year, I think. Thinking of Return on Investment I'd be surprised if any of them were less than 10 years.
Edit: I've just looked at Arriva's franchise agreement. Its over 600 pages long, and even finding the term is difficult. Also, the requirements to run the franchise look costly, covering everything from smart ticketing to buffet cars. It won't be a one year contract!
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User62651
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Ironic that some of our private rail networks are owned by European state railways - they offer their own people affordable state subsidised fares in their countries and make up the difference by charging Brits exorbitant prices on our private networks.
Being state owned can be a good thing.
Being state owned can be a good thing.
FairwayDodger
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Yes, I meant the one AAC was talking about with the new rolling stock. My assumption (that's all it is) is that the franchisee doesn't invest much towards the end of their term.
ger147
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I can't find any corroboration online just now but I'm sure I read sonewhere that ScotRail's rolling stock is rented.
I'm on the verge of not voting. There's no set of policies from any of 'em that appeal. I do think there's a lot of flashy neon lit stuff that is only there as vote winners, and will never make it to or through Parliament.
Never felt so far away from any of the doctrines... maybe I'm just too old and set in my ways for all the rubbish.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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And so The Supreme Leader has spoken - and initial feedback I'm hearing is not that complementary...
I can't comment as, other than the headline Social Care proposal, I have not heard what she had to say. But sounds like subsocialist could be one description
I can't comment as, other than the headline Social Care proposal, I have not heard what she had to say. But sounds like subsocialist could be one description
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Doon frae Troon
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And so The Supreme Leader has spoken - and initial feedback I'm hearing is not that complementary...
I can't comment as, other than the headline Social Care proposal, I have not heard what she had to say. But sounds like subsocialist could be one description
I don't think she mentioned income tax.......make sure you read the small print, you know how truthful thon Tories are.
She did say 'strong and stable' four times, five if you include the warm up guy.
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