The UK - Vote for our independence from Scotland

[alexbrownmp]

Nicola Sturgeon is pushing for full fiscal autonomy- but it will take years she says. Yet if YES won in September they would have the same within 18 mths.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/nicola-sturgeon-tax-powers-must-be-priority-1-3768804

She also claims the GE was nothing to do with a vote for independence- Mr Salmond appears to disagree
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...-hails-staging-post-to-independence-1-3768567


I think she has to be careful what she wishes for.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Mark Lazarowicz is a decent man with good morals and has served Leith well.He's a gentleman and worse folk will still be heading to Westminster.But he got caught out by simply being a Labour MP, a toxic brand, especially in Leith nowadays.

I agree. He'll be missed, I think, but I need to keep an open mind as to how Ms Brock balances her constituency responsibilities with her party commitments.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Nicola Sturgeon is pushing for full fiscal autonomy- but it will take years she says. Yet if YES won in September they would have the same within 18 mths.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/nicola-sturgeon-tax-powers-must-be-priority-1-3768804

She also claims the GE was nothing to do with a vote for independence- Mr Salmond appears to disagree
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...-hails-staging-post-to-independence-1-3768567


I think she has to be careful what she wishes for.

It may sound a bit counter intuitive but I actually think FFA is more complicated than independence so can understand that it might take longer to sort out. I always felt 18 months for independence was a ridiculously ambitious timetable.

Not sure there's a real mandate for FFA, however, so I'm a bit surprised it seems to be so firmly on the agenda.

As for Salmond, he's just the tip of the iceberg. NS has a real challenge keeping her MPs on message, I expect some rather awkward outbursts before too long....

 

[MegaSteve]

Was that one of the new SNP members I saw having a 'Bernie Ecclestone' moment when arriving at Westminster earlier...

 

[alexbrownmp]

Was that one of the new SNP members I saw having a 'Bernie Ecclestone' moment when arriving at Westminster earlier...

you will need to expand for some of us ensconced in our local office

 

[MegaSteve]

you will need to expand for some of us ensconced in our local office

Appeared to be having a problem with a revolving door...

I am sure his predicament will inevitably be aired on the various social media web-sites...

 

[c1973]

Nicola Sturgeon is pushing for full fiscal autonomy- but it will take years she says. Yet if YES won in September they would have the same within 18 mths.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/nicola-sturgeon-tax-powers-must-be-priority-1-3768804

She also claims the GE was nothing to do with a vote for independence- Mr Salmond appears to disagree
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...-hails-staging-post-to-independence-1-3768567


I think she has to be careful what she wishes for.

Hmmmm, funily enough the arse hadn't fell out of the oil prices when that particular claim was made.




By the way, as for keeping the snp MPs on message, I may be wrong (and stand corrected if so) but didn't they pass a ruling at their annual shindig stating that MPs/MSPs can be kicked straight out the party if they 'go off page'? Pretty sure they did.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

I see gloating about oil prices never goes out of fashion down the golf club. I sure you all know Scottish gdp was about 95% of UK gdp excluding oil revs, and that until next year,the price in relation to any Indy Scotland is irrelevant.

That point about SNP MPs towing the party line is correct

 

[c1973]

I see gloating about oil prices never goes out of fashion down the golf club. I sure you all know Scottish gdp was about 95% of UK gdp excluding oil revs, and that until next year,the price in relation to any Indy Scotland is irrelevant.

That point about SNP MPs towing the party line is correct

Thought so.
Police unified under one (political appointee) person, check, dissention in the ranks outlawed, check, rise in nationalist socialism, check, leader wae a dodgy hair do, check.............christ they'll all be wearing broon shirts tae the parliament next. 'Night of the long skean dhu' indeed.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

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Thought so.
Police unified under one (political appointee) person, check, dissention in the ranks outlawed, check, rise in nationalist socialism, check, leader wae a dodgy hair do, check.............christ they'll all be wearing broon shirts tae the parliament next. 'Night of the long skean dhu' indeed.

You forgot trains running on time and mass public support demonstrations.:lol:

 

[Adi2Dassler]

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Thought so.
Police unified under one (political appointee) person, check, dissention in the ranks outlawed, check, rise in nationalist socialism, check, leader wae a dodgy hair do, check.............christ they'll all be wearing broon shirts tae the parliament next. 'Night of the long skean dhu' indeed.

I thought that was poor to be honest. I know he's fighting demons, and I've defended him on here, but he showed a lack of class there and it's the right time for him to leave public office and fight his fight

 

[c1973]

I thought that was poor to be honest. I know he's fighting demons, and I've defended him on here, but he showed a lack of class there and it's the right time for him to leave public office and fight his fight

I did wonder if he was in his cups. I do like the guy though (as politicians go).

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I see the new government has just poured £7m down the drain by appointing a Scottish minister.
So much for austerity.
I heard on the QT that the interview stage was quite brutal.

Even funnier thing is that Labour have appointed a shadow Scottish minister.

 

[SocketRocket]

I see the new government has just poured £7m down the drain by appointing a Scottish minister.
So much for austerity.
I heard on the QT that the interview stage was quite brutal.

Even funnier thing is that Labour have appointed a shadow Scottish minister.

Would it be preferable in Scotland if there were no Ministerial representation? There have always been Secretaries for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Would it be preferable in Scotland if there were no Ministerial representation? There have always been Secretaries for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

It's more ceremonial than anything else now in Scotland I think? I'm not even sure what ceremonies!

I'm not sure it merits St.Andrews house and all the additional things that go with it now though.

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Well there you go. I never knew St. Andrews house was no longer part of Scotland Office, they're in a small gaff in Melville Crescent! That's where my dad lives, I'm gonna have a wee looksee tomorrow.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Would it be preferable in Scotland if there were no Ministerial representation? There have always been Secretaries for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Well if the last government was anything to go by they seemed to be working against Scotland rather than for them.
God knows what they will do this time without the Lib/Dem brakes.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It's more ceremonial than anything else now in Scotland I think? I'm not even sure what ceremonies!/QUOTE]

They get to shake hands with the Prince of Wales at the airport when he flies up to kill grouse and deer.