The SNIP

[Robster59]

No the well fired ones though, that's Devils food.

I like the well fired ones. But any of the morning rolls. We tend to get them fresh from the local co-op. The only issue is that they are off by the end of the day.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I like the well fired ones. But any of the morning rolls. We tend to get them fresh from the local co-op. The only issue is that they are off by the end of the day.

That's not the Mearns Rd shops one perchance? They are excellent.

 

[Robster59]

That's not the Mearns Rd shops one perchance? They are excellent.

It's the one in Harvie Avenue but I imagine they all come from the same source.

 

[KenL]

You should only be able to Vote if you have a Scottish tax number...........that would decimate a fair few of the Conservative and Unionist Party votes.
No representation without taxation

It would also rule out the spongers who don't pay tax. I wonder who they vote for?

 

[PNWokingham]

Unfortunately what can't be put aside is the assertion made by the No campaign that Scots had to vote No to guarantee Scotland being part of the EU. And that is where the Brexit cac (it means what you guess it means) hits the fan.

had a feeling you would drag brexit in rather than have anything sensible to say about the very real issues that i raised. Maybe focus on the real issues and possible solutions that the SNIP seem to think are not relevant - after all, independance will allow you can then make your own laws and keep your oil revenue and,.... build your own government departments (maybe some jobs will cover a proportion of the jobs lost that will be moved back to the rest of the UK) that are needed for a newly independant country...and carry on paying for prescriptions, free university, and not have the nasty colonials from London disctating how you run things. Then all is good i suppose, apart from the very important things that could leave the country extremely vulnerable. But hey ho, they are obviously not important compared to anything said in the Brexit campaign that you can link to the issue.....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It would also rule out the spongers who don't pay tax. I wonder who they vote for?

ehhh.....you still have a tax number even if you do not pay tax.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

That's not the Mearns Rd shops one perchance? They are excellent.

Our village shop sells lovely 'Glasgow' rolls.
Never heard that 'brand' until a couple of years ago.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297972624371458048

For those who think that Scottish Independence is not inevitable check the age groups.

 

[Sweep]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1297972624371458048

For those who think that Scottish Independence is not inevitable check the age groups.

Ah, another poll. Never wrong.
It reminds me of our neighbour who couldn’t understand why they didn’t wait for all the old people to die before they brought in decimalisation.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

had a feeling you would drag brexit in rather than have anything sensible to say about the very real issues that i raised. Maybe focus on the real issues and possible solutions that the SNIP seem to think are not relevant - after all, independance will allow you can then make your own laws and keep your oil revenue and,.... build your own government departments (maybe some jobs will cover a proportion of the jobs lost that will be moved back to the rest of the UK) that are needed for a newly independant country...and carry on paying for prescriptions, free university, and not have the nasty colonials from London disctating how you run things. Then all is good i suppose, apart from the very important things that could leave the country extremely vulnerable. But hey ho, they are obviously not important compared to anything said in the Brexit campaign that you can link to the issue.....

You don't think that Brexit as a driver for a second referendum is not a real issue? Yes there are significant issues that require very serious consideration and that will hold many back from voting 'Yes' - but there are other things driving a 'Yes' - and I suggest that one of the most significant is Brexit; how it has come about (and Johnson's part in that); what it says about a Scottish electorate voice in the UK, and what was previously asserted about remaining in the EU.

And why do you refer to them as SNIP? I think it's easy enough to not make deliberate typos.

 

[Paperboy]

You don't think that Brexit as a driver for a second referendum is not a real issue? Yes there are significant issues that require very serious consideration and that will hold many back from voting 'Yes' - but there are other things driving a 'Yes' - and I suggest that one of the most significant is Brexit; how it has come about (and Johnson's part in that); what it says about a Scottish electorate voice in the UK, and what was previously asserted about remaining in the EU.

And why do you refer to them as SNIP? I think it's easy enough to not make deliberate typos.

All he's done is to quote what is in the threads title.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You don't think that Brexit as a driver for a second referendum is not a real issue? Yes there are significant issues that require very serious consideration and that will hold many back from voting 'Yes' - but there are other things driving a 'Yes' - and I suggest that one of the most significant is Brexit; how it has come about (and Johnson's part in that); what it says about a Scottish electorate voice in the UK, and what was previously asserted about remaining in the EU.

And why do you refer to them as SNIP? I think it's easy enough to not make deliberate typos.

For my tuppence worth a combination of Farage/Johnson and Brexit was just tooo toxic for the 'undecided' Scots to take.

The comparisons between the two goverment's handling of Covid was just more petrol to the fire.
Two thirds of the Scots voted to stay in the EU..........that is a HUGE majority by whatever standards you choose to measure.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

All he's done is to quote what is in the threads title.

That makes three not very clever chaps than.

 

[MegaSteve]

Have always understood why many in Scotland would be desiring of removing themselves from a remote bureaucracy such as Westminster... Puzzles me, therefore, why they seem to be hellbent in with signing up to the equally wholly corrupt folk that pollute the corridors of Brussels...

 

[PNWokingham]

For my tuppence worth a combination of Farage/Johnson and Brexit was just tooo toxic for the 'undecided' Scots to take.

The comparisons between the two goverment's handling of Covid was just more petrol to the fire.
Two thirds of the Scots voted to stay in the EU..........that is a HUGE majority by whatever standards you choose to measure.

and just because a majority in Scotland voted remain, why should that be a deciding factor when it represents less than 10% of the UK population. It was a UK vote. London, with a bigger population than Scotland, voted remain (from memory), but they both have to live with the overall result, just like the nearly half of us who voted Remain.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

All he's done is to quote what is in the threads title.

Which was clearly a typo...

 

[PNWokingham]

You don't think that Brexit as a driver for a second referendum is not a real issue? Yes there are significant issues that require very serious consideration and that will hold many back from voting 'Yes' - but there are other things driving a 'Yes' - and I suggest that one of the most significant is Brexit; how it has come about (and Johnson's part in that); what it says about a Scottish electorate voice in the UK, and what was previously asserted about remaining in the EU.

And why do you refer to them as SNIP? I think it's easy enough to not make deliberate typos.

you just cannot let Brexit totally dominate what you say even on topics that are not on Brexit. Sure, I will agree that Brexit has pushhed more Scots towards independance, but that does not change the fact that it was a once in a generation vote - agreed by all sides. And we have no idea yet (despite your clearly mystic powers that it will be a complete failure) if Brexit will be a success or failure for the country as a whole - that will also take another deade to get a clearer picture, thus aligning well with the "once in a generation" vote on Scottish independance, if that is the prevailing will in 2035.

And by the way, feel free to comment on the much more fundamental and critical points for Scotland if they decide to leave - it is a much different scenario than Brexit for a new country starting with no currency, trade agreements, credit rating, borrowing history, financial history etc etc. And one thing that is a given is that it will cost Scotland more to finance their (larger than the rest of the UK) budget deficit than it will the rest of the UK. Please offer some ideas on what Scotland will or can actually do on the fundamental issues mentioned? These points deserve and must have answers in order for the Scottish people decide if the rationale for leave has any possibility of succeeding - and once again, please do not refer back to Brexit, Boris sculduggery and lies or anything to do with Westminster politics - concentrate on the topic at hand.

And the thread title is called SNIP

 

[Doon frae Troon]

you just cannot let Brexit totally dominate what you say even on topics that are not on Brexit. Sure, I will agree that Brexit has pushhed more Scots towards independance, but that does not change the fact that it was a once in a generation vote - agreed by all sides. And we have no idea yet (despite your clearly mystic powers that it will be a complete failure) if Brexit will be a success or failure for the country as a whole - that will also take another deade to get a clearer picture, thus aligning well with the "once in a generation" vote on Scottish independance, if that is the prevailing will in 2035.

And by the way, feel free to comment on the much more fundamental and critical points for Scotland if they decide to leave - it is a much different scenario than Brexit for a new country starting with no currency, trade agreements, credit rating, borrowing history, financial history etc etc. And one thing that is a given is that it will cost Scotland more to finance their (larger than the rest of the UK) budget deficit than it will the rest of the UK. Please offer some ideas on what Scotland will or can actually do on the fundamental issues mentioned? These points deserve and must have answers in order for the Scottish people decide if the rationale for leave has any possibility of succeeding - and once again, please do not refer back to Brexit, Boris sculduggery and lies or anything to do with Westminster politics - concentrate on the topic at hand.

Same old tired arguments.
Currencey......oor £, bawbees, who cares? Do you think that Gandhi spent hours fretting over oh dear what currency should we use.
Trade agreements etc how did other independent countries like Norway/Estiona etc manage to survive.
Scotland managing it's own money/business will be just fine and thrive.

Why are people like you so desperate to keep Scotland within a clearly failed union, if we were such a drain on the UK surely it would be better to allow us to leave. No one as ever answered that question.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

you just cannot let Brexit totally dominate what you say even on topics that are not on Brexit. Sure, I will agree that Brexit has pushhed more Scots towards independance, but that does not change the fact that it was a once in a generation vote - agreed by all sides. And we have no idea yet (despite your clearly mystic powers that it will be a complete failure) if Brexit will be a success or failure for the country as a whole - that will also take another deade to get a clearer picture, thus aligning well with the "once in a generation" vote on Scottish independance, if that is the prevailing will in 2035.

And by the way, feel free to comment on the much more fundamental and critical points for Scotland if they decide to leave - it is a much different scenario than Brexit for a new country starting with no currency, trade agreements, credit rating, borrowing history, financial history etc etc. And one thing that is a given is that it will cost Scotland more to finance their (larger than the rest of the UK) budget deficit than it will the rest of the UK. Please offer some ideas on what Scotland will or can actually do on the fundamental issues mentioned? These points deserve and must have answers in order for the Scottish people decide if the rationale for leave has any possibility of succeeding - and once again, please do not refer back to Brexit, Boris sculduggery and lies or anything to do with Westminster politics - concentrate on the topic at hand.

And the thread title is called SNIP

Not such a thing in a democracy. Did the Referendum Act define it to be as such - did it define a timescale before a repeat. No. They could have (as in the fixed term parliament act) - but they didn't.

And nobody needs repeat a clear mistaken typo error unless they think it's somehow funny.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Have always understood why many in Scotland would be desiring of removing themselves from a remote bureaucracy such as Westminster... Puzzles me, therefore, why they seem to be hellbent in with signing up to the equally wholly corrupt folk that pollute the corridors of Brussels...

The EU have been fair to Scotland and invested in many projects, especially rural infrastructure.
The Westminster Government have been unfair to Scotland and not invested in its infrastructure.