PaulMdj
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I think there’s only Guehi this forum hasn’t blamed during this tournament, today its Walker & Pickford.
I think there’s only Guehi this forum hasn’t blamed during this tournament, today its Walker & Pickford.
PaulMdj
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Serious question! Why is well down the list? Been to 2 Finals, a semi-final with his Country, named player of the season in a struggling side 3 out 4 of the last seasons.
I’m really not sure many supposed top keepers would be rated so highly behind Everton’s defence or have done more at international level.
Canary_Yellow
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You've lost me, Paul. I've no idea what you're apologising for or what point you're making?
My point was that if Pep were England boss, Pickford wouldn't be a suitable keeper for his style of play.
Canary_Yellow
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My list would be (in no particular order but all ahead of Pickford):
Allison
Ederson
Courtois
Oblak
Martinez
ter Stegen
Donnarumma
Sommer
Simon
Maignan
Mamardashvili
Probably Raya and Neuer too.
I'm not a United fan and I happen to agree with the others that TAA isn't an international defender no matter how many links you put up (and can't help noticing a lot are Liverpool biased). Here's one from a Liverpool legend saying he isn't good enough https://www.skysports.com/football/...good-enough-he-needs-competition-at-liverpoolWow imagine people like you a Man Utd fans “mocking” Liverpool players , I’m just shocked
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How about what Cafu says about him
Cafu puzzled by Trent treatment - 'They did the same to me'
"He’s the full package."www.thisisanfield.com
What about Neville
Gary Neville expressed a light-hearted view on Trent Alexander-Arnold’s performance after the 1-1 draw.
The former England defender told ITV: “We’ll look back in 5-10 years and laugh how we couldn’t get Trent Alexander-Arnold in the team”
Comparing Trippier, James, Alexander-Arnold and Walker's statistics in the 2023/24 season
The results make for very interesting reading 😮 The best English right-back is ___________ 👇www.givemesport.com
“Alexander-Arnold is, rightly and wrongly, persistently berated by fans and pundits alike for his inability to defend. That said, the statistics show that he had racked up the most clearances and interceptions per game out of the quartet with 1.8 and 1.1, respectively. His ball recovery tally is also the highest of the bunch, with him winning the ball back 7.6 times per match. ”
Arthur Wedge
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Pickford has done well for England - it’s hard to drop him etc , never let them down
But agree on your list
Pickford is a bit like Mignolet when we had him - a decent gk , good shot stopper but I don’t think he is at the level of the very best
But he is the best English GK
clubchamp98
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Kick off Saka straight to Pickford.
Big hump upfield just giving the ball to Spain.
That’s got to come from the coaches and manager.
What other team kicks off like that ?
Just not good enough.
Big hump upfield just giving the ball to Spain.
That’s got to come from the coaches and manager.
What other team kicks off like that ?
Just not good enough.
PaulMdj
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You've lost me, Paul. I've no idea what you're apologising for or what point you're making?
My point was that if Pep were England boss, Pickford wouldn't be a suitable keeper for his style of play.
, I was making the point his long kicking isn’t down to Dyche, he was kicking it long way before Dyche took over, Dyche is simply utilising one of Pickfords strengths.Swango1980
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I can see it being used as a tactic right from the start, making the opposition defend an aerial ball right from the start, and hoping to maybe catch them cold right from the beginning. Although, it happened frequently after kick off it seemed, which again must be a demand from the coaches. But, it was frustrating, because it seemed clear that Kane was never going to win the ball. Knowing that Kane was simply not fit, and this was a tactic asked for by Southgate, then having Toney as the striker would surely have made a lot more sense?
Canary_Yellow
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Ah yes! Thanks, that makes sense.
And yes, I think that's a fair point, and as I said earlier, I think he should suit a Southgate side very well (and he has, I would say?).
To be fair to Dyche though, I reckon he'd have Allison playing just as many long balls if he was the Everton keeper! I don't think he took up hoofing as his favoured tactic just because Pickford is good at it!
Swango1980
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I actually really like Pickford as a goalkeeper. I've said before, but he just seems to have a personality that means he is never phased playing under pressure. Playing under the spot light for England. Whereas plenty of other goalkeepers have looked like they want the ground to swallow them up at times. I really like Pickford's passion as well, not to mention I think he is a very good goalkeeper.
Sure, maybe if Ederson or Allison were English, they'd beat Pickford to the No. 1 jersey. But, they aren't. To me, there isn't even a question right now who England's No. 1 should be, it is Pickford all day long.
Sure, maybe if Ederson or Allison were English, they'd beat Pickford to the No. 1 jersey. But, they aren't. To me, there isn't even a question right now who England's No. 1 should be, it is Pickford all day long.
PaulMdj
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Look at the Clubs, look at Everton, as I said how many of them would be rated so highly fighting relegation for a few seasons.
Not sure about Simon & Mamardashvili being better tbh, good keepers, playing for decent Clubs
Canary_Yellow
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It's a valid point, but playing devil's advocate, if he was on the same level as the very best keepers, would he perhaps have got a move away from Everton?
Pickford seems to be the best we have. Henderson hasn't played enough big games to fill me with any confidence and Ramsdale hasn't played much for Arsenal last season so again would seem to be lacking even if both wee better with their distribution
AmandaJR
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Made my blood boil. Start of every game. Not even good and accurate long hoofs, made worse by a CF who couldn't manage to get off the ground and compete for a single header.
AmandaJR
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Shot stopping though - he made some good saves when called upon.
For all his flaws arguably kept us in it several times and kept the scoreline respectable last night
PaulMdj
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He certainly deserves a move, but has been very loyal to us and happily signed contract extensions. Maybe he knows how much he’s loved by the fans.
From your list above…
Pickford - great shot stopper but distribution was very, very poor. Teams on the receiving end of his long kicks are having a field day. Long kicks are for teams where the opposition aren’t great at controlling what’s coming at them, League 1 footie not international footie.
TAA - fullbacks playing high up the pitch get caught out. Walker did and so would TAA - he has history for it. Walker tracks back well, TAA doesn’t. Walker is 34, and a new RB is required. Jury is out for me but I don’t think TAA is either right or wrong. Trippier was brilliant at the last Euros, and has looked very good for Newcastle - should it him?
Stones & Geuhi - 90% ok with that but would like to see another CB coming through - not Harry M.
Shaw/Chilwell - Shaw, fine. Not convinced on Chilwell. Need to find another Chilwell.
Rice/Bellingham/Foden - early days for all 3 together. Could be a stunning midfield but they need some more game time together.
Saka - nailed on.
Kane/Palmer - the change couldn’t come at a better time. But who covers Palmer?
Gordon - fringe player. Needs some game time and, again, now is a good time to try him and maybe a couple of others.
PaulMdj
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For the past few seasons the talk around Pickford has always been “good keeper, but waiting for him to make a mistake”
now it’s his ability with his feet.
In the 7 years he’s been No1, nobody has seriously challenged him, despite being hyped up as better.
P.S. Walker, imo, was one of our best players at the Euros along with the other defenders, nobody better at RB. he was caught wanting yesterday with the first goal imo, but as I’ve said, please name me a player who’s never made a mistake.
now it’s his ability with his feet.In the 7 years he’s been No1, nobody has seriously challenged him, despite being hyped up as better.
P.S. Walker, imo, was one of our best players at the Euros along with the other defenders, nobody better at RB. he was caught wanting yesterday with the first goal imo, but as I’ve said, please name me a player who’s never made a mistake.
