The Footie Thread

[rudebhoy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812780316890710098

worth watching to the end!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Been reading a few articles about about the next stage

After each tournament some players are no longer required so who do you see missing out now

The 10 England players who might have played their last international games

With a two-year gap before the 2026 World Cup gets under way, England have a chance to look at a new crop of players

www.fourfourtwo.com

Kyle Walker - not Harry Kane - one of five players England must bin after poor Euro 2024

Five England players we think Gareth Southgate - or his replacement - must discard moving forward include Kyle Walker but not final flop Harry Kane.

www.football365.com

Think it was already decided beforehand that

Henderson
Maguire
Wilson
Phillips

Will no longer be called up

The ones who went

Walker
Dunk
Trippier
Shaw ?

Will I think miss the next squad

The ones that are questionable

Grealish and Sterling - good seasons can still see them around

Rashford - if someone can get him back playing then he is a great player

And then there is a conundrum-

Kane !


When looking at the players in and around the u21’s - England could have a very bright future


Branthwaite
Quansah
Lewis
Colwill
Elliot
Wharton
Jones
Delap


The Under 21’s won their Euros last year and many players are now regulars

So any other players that should be put out to international retirement and any other youngesters banging on the door

 

[PaulMdj]

Been reading a few articles about about the next stage

After each tournament some players are no longer required so who do you see missing out now

The 10 England players who might have played their last international games

With a two-year gap before the 2026 World Cup gets under way, England have a chance to look at a new crop of players

www.fourfourtwo.com

Kyle Walker - not Harry Kane - one of five players England must bin after poor Euro 2024

Five England players we think Gareth Southgate - or his replacement - must discard moving forward include Kyle Walker but not final flop Harry Kane.

www.football365.com

Think it was already decided beforehand that

Henderson
Maguire
Wilson
Phillips

Will no longer be called up

The ones who went

Walker
Dunk
Trippier
Shaw ?

Will I think miss the next squad

The ones that are questionable

Grealish and Sterling - good seasons can still see them around

Rashford - if someone can get him back playing then he is a great player

And then there is a conundrum-

Kane !


When looking at the players in and around the u21’s - England could have a very bright future


Branthwaite
Quansah
Lewis
Colwill
Elliot
Wharton
Jones
Delap


The Under 21’s won their Euros last year and many players are now regulars

So any other players that should be put out to international retirement and any other youngesters banging on the door

Both those articles are about the World Cup in 2026, the next squad is in less than 2 months for waste of time cup, otherwise known as The Nations Cup.

It really comes down to whose in charge, if you look at our qualifying campaign for these Euros it didn’t finish until last Nov and quite a few of the Euros squad weren’t even on the radar then, ie, Palmer, Mainoo, Eze, Gordon etc

So it would be virtually impossible to guess who’s coming through for 2 years time.

I’d hope that even if Southgate is in charge he’d use it as an experiment to bring all these young players on.

As all the current squad will be playing next season and unless they retire from international football or are injured in the first few weeks of the season, 99% of them will probably be selected again.

Draw for 2026 WC isn’t until December this year.

 

[PaulMdj]

If Southgate leaves:

 

[3offTheTee]

This is what happens when you let 3rd rate teams in. It will get worse if they expand the number of teams.

The tone was set in the group stages.

You are going to be disappointed when the next World Cup takes place in Canada, Mexico and USA.
The number of teams will increase from 32 to 48, matches 64 to 104 and the tournament will last for 39 days!

 

[Tashyboy]

You aren't convincing anyone that Walker is a bad defender, because you highlighted a few moments he might have done better. No player is perfect, but Walker would have been in most people's first 11, because he has proved himself time and time again.

Here is another great video, if you think they are useful at proving a point:

That’s very unfair. Defenders could learn a lot by watching how TAA puts his hand up when asking for offside.

 

[Tashyboy]

For all his flaws arguably kept us in it several times and kept the scoreline respectable last night

And this Homer is a point that is lost on a few. If Pickford had a shocking game Spain would have battered England. They didn’t. If they had the finger would have been pointed at him. Instead Walker is now all of a sudden rammel. I don’t get it.

How anyone can point a finger at ANY player and I include TAA In that is beyond me. The under performance of that team/ squad is down to one person. And he never kicked a ball.

 

[Tashyboy]

For all these comments about this player should play or that player should play, is this not just falling into the Southgate trap of being too rigid? We may all have our favourite 11 that differs from Southgate's, but would it not be better to basically not have a preferred starting 11 at all? England have a lot of good players, and could probably play a lot of different formations, so surely if England had a top coach, they could do things quite differently from one game to the next, and also make big changes in game as well.

I'd imagine if Pep was England manager, in one game he might choose to play with Kane up front, but ensure the players around him play to his strengths, and run in behind the defence. Then, in the next game, I could see him playing someone like Toney, trying to pin down one or 2 centre backs and giving space to Foden / Bellingham (or whoever). Then he could play Watkins for some pace to run in behind, or he could even play with no recognized CF in a game, but have someone like Palmer making himself a nuisance high up the pitch.

I think doing that will also get more players involved more frequently. It keeps players fresher during a tournament, and on their toes knowing they need to take their opportunities. It gives a lot more players an opportunity to play a bigger role for England, as I'm sure players like Gordon and Eze would get even more game time. Even TAA, as I'm sure England can play a formation that would really benefit from good distribution from the right.

Whereas, I'm not sure the answer is to just replace Kane and a couple of others, and suddenly England become a great team to watch.

And this is a very valid point, Haaland pulls in two players and helps create space. Kane could be still be out there on his own and would not find space.
Another thing I found odd yesterday. When Kane got booked yesterday for studs up. He moaned like the clappers. Has he forgot he got a soft penalty for a studs up challenge against him.

 

[Tashyboy]

Without googling it, which prem league club had the most players at the Euros.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Without googling it, which prem league club had the most players at the Euros.

It was City then Arsenal then Liverpool


Also worth remembering that the teams will be impacted by the Copa as well with multiple players playing in that

But that’s the price to pay if a club wants the top players

 

[AmandaJR]

Without googling it, which prem league club had the most players at the Euros.

What no google - aaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

I'm guessing us? It is likely to be another slow start to the season as Pep gives them extra rest or at least delays pre-season. Gives the rest hope

 

[Tashyboy]

What no google - aaaaaaaaaaagggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

I'm guessing us? It is likely to be another slow start to the season as Pep gives them extra rest or at least delays pre-season. Gives the rest hope

Nope. 2nd highest.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

You are going to be disappointed when the next World Cup takes place in Canada, Mexico and USA.
The number of teams will increase from 32 to 48, matches 64 to 104 and the tournament will last for 39 days!

Already am.

 

[Pin-seeker]

It was City then Arsenal then Liverpool


Also worth remembering that the teams will be impacted by the Copa as well with multiple players playing in that

But that’s the price to pay if a club wants the top players

He said without googling

 

[PJ87]

Already am.

Shake it up for a laugh. World cup every 2 years , with euros every 2 years in between. No qualifying. Every team goes. Straight knock out!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Nope. 2nd highest.

Who is higher than City ?

Premier Lge Website has all the players that represented nations both in the Euros and Copa

They even spoke about it last night on BBC - it was City with 13


Also The Rest is Football podcast today is very good

 

[Tashyboy]

He said without googling

Nope nope and nope.The question was Which prem club had the most players at the Euros. Not which club had the most players in the England squad

 

[PaulMdj]

Read it on the BBC Website this afternoon, City had 9, 1 Club had 10.

City players played the most minutes though.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Read it on the BBC Website this afternoon, City had 9, 1 Club had 10.

City players played the most minutes though.

Not sure which club the BBC said had ten

Man City​

14 players: Kevin De Bruyne, Jeremy Doku (both Belgium), Josko Gvardiol, Mateo Kovacic (both Croatia) John Stones, Kyle Walker, Phil Foden (all England), Ruben Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Cancelo, Matheus Nunes (all Portugal), Nathan Ake (Netherlands), Rodri (Spain), Manuel Akanji (Switzerland).

Premier League players appearing at EURO 2024 by club

See which Premier League clubs have their players in action in Germany, and the most-represented club

www.premierleague.com

They had a good chat about it last night

 

[PaulMdj]

Not sure which club the BBC said had ten

Man City​

14 players: Kevin De Bruyne, Jeremy Doku (both Belgium), Josko Gvardiol, Mateo Kovacic (both Croatia) John Stones, Kyle Walker, Phil Foden (all England), Ruben Dias, Bernardo Silva, Joao Cancelo, Matheus Nunes (all Portugal), Nathan Ake (Netherlands), Rodri (Spain), Manuel Akanji (Switzerland).

Premier League players appearing at EURO 2024 by club

See which Premier League clubs have their players in action in Germany, and the most-represented club

www.premierleague.com

They had a good chat about it last night

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