2blue
Journeyman Pro
Exactly this ^^^^^^
He was attacking & asking questions right on the limit & they were defending, cynically, right on the limit & they lost out... it's a simple as that!! I just hope the Officials are up to their job on Sunday.
He was attacking & asking questions right on the limit & they were defending, cynically, right on the limit & they lost out... it's a simple as that!! I just hope the Officials are up to their job on Sunday.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
The whole game was marred by the blocking and holding, ankle biting.. it was waved away when actually it needed to be carded. A stricter ref would have delivered more cards, would asked the players to leave the pitch with their injuries etc.. To complain about a penalty is ridiculous when the player has been played and not the ball.
On Sunday we will see the 2 CBs push/hold and kick .. it’s their game. My view is drop off the defender and run at him. Do that all night and you beat him or gat free kicks just make sure when you go down you land on him etc.. Varrati will be ankle biting as well, it’s his job but the Spanish sorted him out .. follow their tactics.
England deserve to be in the final as do Italy .. opportunities were made and taken
Mudball
Assistant Pro
What kind of nation have we suddenly turned into.. where is this tribalism being unleashed from. In some ways you wish we never reached this stage …
I know everyone is going to say .. this does not represent the majority
https://apple.news/A4vS1r8K0T569UEOYKB7oag
.. and it is not just to the Danes, we have turned on our own (who don’t look like us).. from Twitter yesterday. As I understand, the FA has reached out to support
… and still we have a section of forumites who can’t understand why our players take the knee..
I know everyone is going to say .. this does not represent the majority
https://apple.news/A4vS1r8K0T569UEOYKB7oag
.. and it is not just to the Danes, we have turned on our own (who don’t look like us).. from Twitter yesterday. As I understand, the FA has reached out to support
… and still we have a section of forumites who can’t understand why our players take the knee..
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Suddenly?
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Do you want a larger brush to tar everyone with or is yours ok as it is?
Robster59
Tour Rookie
People like that sadly still exist, and they'll use any excuse for continuing that at every opportunity.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
This is exactly it, but it’s on a club level as well. I dunno why it is acceptable on any level. That is a physical assault and is an offence .. the problem lies in a lack of education
Mudball
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could do with a larger brush.. to wack these weirdo on their head..
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Racism within all countries is always alive - a lot of good work within the uk has been done but a lot of recent events has seen it increase
9/11
Brexit
There are always elements within football -ever since the days of the hooligan element , that’s certainly not gone away and never will.
Right now the media are massively pushing the patriotism because of how well the football team are doing - demands for bank holidays etc and it gives that certain element excuses to displays their “Three Lions” - most will prob be part of the EDL and be following right behind the likes of Robinson and Farage -
These things will never stop - social media is worse , you only have to see what people were posting towards that little german girl crying
We didn’t have any of this when England won the Rugby World Cup or Cricket World Cup or when we do well in the Olympics etc
But football - well at times it breeds a different element , and it’s shame as it spoils it for the rest. It wouldn’t surprise me that on the biggest stage in football for England in years the fans will first boo the Italian national anthem - for some they dismiss it but it breeds hatred
RichA
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I used to watch football in pubs regularly.
I watched the Germans beat us on penalties in the Italia 90 semi-final in a pub in Rugby. It was followed by grown men in tears drunkenly hugging each other and commiserating.
I watched the Germans beat us on penalties in the Euro 96 semi-final in a pub in Mansfield. It was followed by grown men throwing glasses, bottles, chairs, punches and kicks at each other.
I don't understand what changed or when, but I haven't watched football in a pub since.
I watched the Germans beat us on penalties in the Italia 90 semi-final in a pub in Rugby. It was followed by grown men in tears drunkenly hugging each other and commiserating.
I watched the Germans beat us on penalties in the Euro 96 semi-final in a pub in Mansfield. It was followed by grown men throwing glasses, bottles, chairs, punches and kicks at each other.
I don't understand what changed or when, but I haven't watched football in a pub since.
Piece
Tour Winner
But they did? Contact was made, how light, thus VAR didn't overrule.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Agree with what you say... The queen and the Prime minister claim German, Turkish roots. The only non-controversial and effective minister is of Indian descent (apparently he supports India in cricket). The NHS would be lost without the global talent pool
Closer home, those cheering the team.. and we all should.. here is a thought..
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I was serving in Germany when we lost in 1990 and suffered German Fans driving around the married quarters celebrating beating us, which wasn’t a problem until the beer bottles started getting thrown at the houses and the abuse started.
Now I’m sure some will blame that on the hooligan behaviour of the English in the late 80’s or we were seen as “unwelcome visitors” etc, but it wasn’t it was simply, imo, a few mindless morons(probably drunk) looking for trouble.
Every Nation has them sadly.
2blue
Journeyman Pro
nor do they seem to understand how such an attitude is a contributory factor to this whole problem....... why isn't Prince William taking a lead by joining in taking the knee??
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
The ref should have taken a look to confirm what he thinks he has seen.
He is the man with the whistle. It should be his responsibility and call.
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That’s not how VAR works, if VAR don’t disagree with the onfield decision then the initial decision stands.
The Ref made a call and VAR agreed.
Why would he question his own decision when it was backed up?
What you’re suggesting is bin VAR and let the Ref’s check themselves.
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That’s the thing I wasn’t sure about - the only other time I can remember when the ref went to the screen was for the same sort of penalty shoot - he was asked to go to screen , and overruled his initial decision- I think he should have gone to the screen so that he could confirm or overule
Mudball
Assistant Pro
To @Liverpoolphil's point.. we dont see this level of madness while cheering a Mo Frah, Jessica Ennis, Andy Murray, Cricket or Rugby wins. What is it about the so called beautiful game that brings out the tribal instinct. It is not just at a national level but also in grassroots. Every so often my kid's runs into a team wherein parents & coaches shout 'take him out' to their kids. A perfectly valid move in Rugby but not allowed in footy.
This simply cant be a 'class' issue nor is it a 'passion' issue .. we are all passionate about our sports and we want to win..
This simply cant be a 'class' issue nor is it a 'passion' issue .. we are all passionate about our sports and we want to win..
Mudball
Assistant Pro
something to cheer >>> well done school..
2blue
Journeyman Pro
VAR obviously agreed with what the ref had seen so no need to go look. VAR is there for clear & obvious errors, or so they keep telling us.
