I'm really worried this might happen ...
Southgate is useless, but Howe is appealing too!
davidy233
Tour Rookie
It's also at least forty years old with the names changed
pokerjoke
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I’ve been saying all along England won’t win or go far because they are knackered from a long season.
I might be proved wrong only time will tell.
I bet you there was not one England supporter who couldn’t see Kane was leggy or Sterling however long he stayed out there he was not going to get any better.
Where was Sancho? Once Foden was taken off( another baffling decision) he’s being touted at £120 million but can’t get a run out( although he will next game I’m sure.
Why bring Maguire and Henderson at all? we could have had Lingard and JWP to create.
I might be proved wrong only time will tell.
I bet you there was not one England supporter who couldn’t see Kane was leggy or Sterling however long he stayed out there he was not going to get any better.
Where was Sancho? Once Foden was taken off( another baffling decision) he’s being touted at £120 million but can’t get a run out( although he will next game I’m sure.
Why bring Maguire and Henderson at all? we could have had Lingard and JWP to create.
chrisd
Major Champion
This competition is a marathon not a sprint!
We did enough by not losing and qualifying for the last 16 is really the only important matter. Scotland will always try harder than us in a Scotland v England match as it means more to them.
Generally the teams that do best in these tournaments improve as the competition moves on and hopefully the best England team will become obvious and we stay relatively injury free
If Scotland have had their "cup final" good luck to them, they played better than us but they are NOT a better team
We did enough by not losing and qualifying for the last 16 is really the only important matter. Scotland will always try harder than us in a Scotland v England match as it means more to them.
Generally the teams that do best in these tournaments improve as the competition moves on and hopefully the best England team will become obvious and we stay relatively injury free
If Scotland have had their "cup final" good luck to them, they played better than us but they are NOT a better team
davidy233
Tour Rookie
Traditionally Scotland don't get out of the group and England get papped out by the first decent team they play - both scenarios are still likely - but the whole point of being a football fan is hoping your team exceed expectations.
AmandaJR
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Lest we forget folks - we achieved our ambition last night (or at least the manager's ambition)...we didn't lose.
Set up not to lose and hope for a win! Let's hope this is Southgate's last tournament.
Set up not to lose and hope for a win! Let's hope this is Southgate's last tournament.
clubchamp98
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I wonder what the players think in all this.
Do they just accept the blandness of selection or speak out in team meetings.
They must basically have the same opinion as the fans or do they?
There is only one man in the country that thinks two holding midfielders is a good idea.
Sterling should start.
Foden was the worst player so sub him.
Kane should start but he looks less than 100%
Rashford is better than DCL.
The list is longer but it’s GS and Unfortunatly he makes these decisions.
Do they just accept the blandness of selection or speak out in team meetings.
They must basically have the same opinion as the fans or do they?
There is only one man in the country that thinks two holding midfielders is a good idea.
Sterling should start.
Foden was the worst player so sub him.
Kane should start but he looks less than 100%
Rashford is better than DCL.
The list is longer but it’s GS and Unfortunatly he makes these decisions.
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Problem with that is if it is his last we only have 18 months to set up for the next one
We have so much talent but insist on sticking with names
He said when we took over players would be picked on form not names
In that case Henderson shouldnt be there. Hasn't played since Feb. Out of form
Sterling , poor season , out of form
Tripper , wins league, in form. Played out of position then dropped
Lingard, wardprowse .. both in Great form. Left at home
Sounds like every other England manager to me
GreiginFife
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When you have diddies like Stephen O'Donnell and Grant Hanley in your back line alongside a boy thats a half decent midfielder but not a defender, then yes. Yes, it is.
MadAdey
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It was painful to watch. I would love to know how many passes were made made in a backwards direction. Finally when Grealish came on we had someone who was at least trying to get at the Scottish defence and give it a go. HOw the hell did we have 60% possesion and only mange 9 attempts on goal and one on target? Scotland had 40% and managed 11 shots and 2 on target.
Kellfire
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MadAdey
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Isn't this the same old excuse we hear all the time for England...........It has been a long season. Other teams manage to turn up and play after a long season.
nickjdavis
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and thats the problem with England....the modern crop of players dont "get it".....they've not a clue about what the oldest International football fixture actually means. The passion and desire that the Scots bring to the game was there for all to see from the moment the anthems were played. The Scots were up for it, the Engliish didn't realise that they would have to work so much harder....the moment you start slowly it is really difficult to drag the momentum upwards, you give the opposition hope, which fuels their desire further, they work harder, show more commitment which in turn forces you to up your game.
Far to many players in white shirts natural instinct last night was to look backwards rather than forwards. What Rice is doing on an international pitch I really dont know. Kane looks jaded and like someones filled his boots with concrete. Sterling couldnt trap a bag of sand last night. There was no connection between the defence, midfield and attack...too far apart and unable to support each other.
It would be unfair on Scotland to just say that they outworked England. In truth they played the better football, looked like they had a plan, created the best opportunities. Should in all honesty have won the game. Well done to them. Don't think it will be enough mind...I suspect Croatia will beat them and England will play out a turgid draw with Czech Rep to finish second and avoid Germany/France/Portugal.
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clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
That imo is why DCL should have come on for Kane .
Throw a few crosses in and see what happens.
Not pretty but what we were doing was not working .
chrisd
Major Champion
How many pints of BITTER did you have last night?
Just a dose of reality, that was all that was needed!
stefanovic
Medal Winner
Just like the last Euro's when England lost to Iceland.
The players do not want to be there. They would prefer to be in Ibiza (travel permitting).
'Gaffer, can you get me out of the England game' as claimed by one Prem manager.
No pride, no passion, no hope.
The players do not want to be there. They would prefer to be in Ibiza (travel permitting).
'Gaffer, can you get me out of the England game' as claimed by one Prem manager.
No pride, no passion, no hope.
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
Maybe
However our game is played quicker than any other league.
More games higher intensity
Take Kane for example he honestly looks shot,he’s not sharp,he’s definitely not 100% fit but it seems he’s un droppable.
I would rest him next game and maybe bring him back.
However if CL scores 2 or 3 then maybe not.
Bunkermagnet
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The ironic thing is though that the Italians who traditionally play a slow solid game, score then shut up shop are playing football taken form the City/Liverpool playbooks and are managed by Mancini whos had time here. If they can play that way, why can't our manager see the benefit of it or is it only the foriegn managers who can see it's an attractive and effective way to play (Guadiola/Klopp/Mancini etc)?
Just because our players are paid so much and are probably the highest earners in Europe doesn't make them the best.
MadAdey
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IS it that he is not fit, or just fed up with never getting any supply. Together with Son they play quickly and move it fast between them. With England it is just so slow from going from back to front. They win the ball back and do not move it forward giving the other team a chacne to get the defence set, instead of cathing them out of position. Kane is having to drop back into midfield to try and get a touch, instead of being up top recieving the ball for quick inter changes with Sterling. Worse thing is he is dropping into the area Mount plays in, causing it to get crowded.
