The Footie Thread

[chrisd]

Sadly Chris there’s been no VAR until the semi’s in Caraboa Cup since 2019/20.

Well sadly, that's absolutely a crap decision !

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Well sadly, that's absolutely a crap decision !

No idea how the linesman didn’t give the first one

 

[PaulMdj]

Well sadly, that's absolutely a crap decision !

I can understand no VAR when Clubs from outside the PL are at home, but when it’s PL Clubs at home it should be used, there’s been a few Teams had decisions go against them in that period and it should of been adressed.

 

[PJ87]

I can understand no VAR when Clubs from outside the PL are at home, but when it’s PL Clubs at home it should be used, there’s been a few Teams had decisions go against them in that period and it should of been adressed.

I stand by what I said when we went through for a handball goal against Bournemouth

Var either should be in for the whole tournament or not at all

Bringing it in at the semis makes the rest of the tournament an unlevel playing field

 

[clubchamp98]

The linesman is so far behind the play he can’t see.

Once Quansah gets his arm over him it’s a foul and a red imo.
Just another bad reffing decision.

Just another day at the office for Hooper.

 

[PaulMdj]

I stand by what I said when we went through for a handball goal against Bournemouth

Var either should be in for the whole tournament or not at all

Bringing it in at the semis makes the rest of the tournament an unlevel playing field

But when not used Refs take the blame, absolutely no reason why it shouldn’t be used in all PL ties.

Other Leagues don’t use it, so imo it would be unfair to expect them to have it fitted for possibly 1 home game.

The FA Cup it’s used from the 5th round onwards! Another daft decision.

 

[Neilds]

I stand by what I said when we went through for a handball goal against Bournemouth

Var either should be in for the whole tournament or not at all

Bringing it in at the semis makes the rest of the tournament an unlevel playing field

Having no VAR at all in early rounds actually levels the playing field as non premier league grounds don’t have it so all matches are played under the same conditions.

 

[PJ87]

Having no VAR at all in early rounds actually levels the playing field as non premier league grounds don’t have it so all matches are played under the same conditions.

Which is fine. However then don't bring it in for the later rounds as it makes it a different situation.

You can't have a goal ruled out but oh in the semis that goal would stand

That's ridiculous

 

[Swango1980]

Which is fine. However then don't bring it in for the later rounds as it makes it a different situation.

You can't have a goal ruled out but oh in the semis that goal would stand

That's ridiculous

In the very early rounds of a cup competition, you probably have much less qualified officials in charge of the match.

In the latter rounds, you will probably have officials much more highly qualified. Is that a different situation?

You may well have decisions go different ways in earlier rounds, because the wrong decision was made. So, why should it be considered the correct thing to do to increase the odds of bad decisions in the latter rounds by not using VAR?

 

[Neilds]

Maybe people should stop calling it VAR as this makes it sound like it is an automated system that gets everything right. It should be called the 5th official as we would all be certain that it is a human who is fallible and can make mistakes - unlike people online who are always right

 

[PJ87]

In the very early rounds of a cup competition, you probably have much less qualified officials in charge of the match.

In the latter rounds, you will probably have officials much more highly qualified. Is that a different situation?

You may well have decisions go different ways in earlier rounds, because the wrong decision was made. So, why should it be considered the correct thing to do to increase the odds of bad decisions in the latter rounds by not using VAR?

God what a load of whataboutary

If a system is to be used it should be used the entire comp or not. Not brought in half way through

Much like semi auto offside. They shouldn't be brought in mid season.

All rule changes are made at an end of a season so that it's the same for everyone

Var shouldn't be in on the cups if they can't provide it every round.

 

[PaulMdj]

God what a load of whataboutary

If a system is to be used it should be used the entire comp or not. Not brought in half way through

Much like semi auto offside. They shouldn't be brought in mid season.

All rule changes are made at an end of a season so that it's the same for everyone

Var shouldn't be in on the cups if they can't provide it every round.

Totally agree, plus Referee’s in the EFL have the same qualification as the PL Referee’s, the only difference is possibly more experience at a higher level.
The Laws of the game don’t change from League to League.

 

[RichA]

God what a load of whataboutary

If a system is to be used it should be used the entire comp or not. Not brought in half way through

Much like semi auto offside. They shouldn't be brought in mid season.

All rule changes are made at an end of a season so that it's the same for everyone

Var shouldn't be in on the cups if they can't provide it every round.

We're in our homes and offices using an internet golf forum to discuss the officiating of competitive professional football. Everything that any of us says is whataboutery.

If it's unavailable it can't be used. If it is available it should be used.
Each match is a match in its own right and doesn't affect the other fixtures. It's not like a golf comp where they're all competing against each other at once.
Level up - don't level down.

 

[PJ87]

We're in our homes and offices using an internet golf forum to discuss the officiating of competitive professional football. Everything that any of us says is whataboutery.

If it's unavailable it can't be used. If it is available it should be used.
Each match is a match in its own right and doesn't affect the other fixtures. It's not a like a golf comp where they're all competing against each other at once.
Level up - don't level down.

Agree and disagree, I agree that if available use it. IE us Vs Bournemouth, it was available it should have been used however I disagree that it doesn't make a difference

If say city won it but in the first round their goal shouldn't have stood was offside that makes it unfair that they got through and so on. Butterfly effect

 

[RichA]

Agree and disagree, I agree that if available use it. IE us Vs Bournemouth, it was available it should have been used however I disagree that it doesn't make a difference

If say city won it but in the first round their goal shouldn't have stood was offside that makes it unfair that they got through and so on. Butterfly effect

Didn't think you liked whataboutery.

 

[PJ87]

Didn't think you liked whataboutery.

That's what ifery

 

[Slime]

I stand by what I said when we went through for a handball goal against Bournemouth

Var either should be in for the whole tournament or not at all

Bringing it in at the semis makes the rest of the tournament an unlevel playing field

How so?

 

[Swango1980]

Didn't think you liked whataboutery.

Whataboutery is often a term thrown at someone because they don't like to admit that a useful and relavant point was made to counter their argument.

But, it isn't whataboutery when they do the same thing to try and back their own argument

The fifth official argument used by Neilds is a good one. It is effectively an extra pair of eyes, who can actually look over incidents multiple times, that can be used to try and eliminate errors. We can argue over the processes of VAR all day long, and how it could be better. But, as the whole point of it is to improve decision making, it seems a strange argument that fans would prefer there to be more wrong decisions in latter rounds, just out of principle. I mean, who cares if a side got through an earlier round on a bad decision? Does that mean it is better a side can win the final on a wrong decision?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Not sure what the issue is but it’s not “unfair” if VAR is not used in one round but is used in the semi finals

It’s the same for all the teams in that round

 

[Orikoru]

I genuinely can’t see why any half decent team would want Rashford anywhere near the place.
“I want a new challenge”
Load of Rubbish,Utd have a new manager & he could see this as an opportunity to rebuild himself.
PSG would be a perfect fit for him,strutting around the farmers league whilst earning a fortune.

Usually people only say this when they've mastered the existing challenge.