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Wouldn't call it obsessed, but I started watching football at 8 years old, circa 1992 - and have had to endure 25+ years of smug, glory supporting weapons at school (and later in laws) who chose to support United over their own local team(s), in a time where Fergie and United won just about everything.

This fall from grace is nothing short of wonderful.

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Spot on - its massive news in the sport

If the roles were reversed and it was Liverpool struggling and sacking managers then the United fans would be all over it just like they were when Rodgers was manager
 

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Wouldn't call it obsessed, but I started watching football at 8 years old, circa 1992 - and have had to endure 25+ years of smug, glory supporting weapons at school (and later in laws) who chose to support United over their own local team(s), in a time where Fergie and United won just about everything.

This fall from grace is nothing short of wonderful.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not referring to anybody as obsessed who comments or has an opinion on it.

I think it is clear that some, or one, just seem to spend an incredible amount of time posting opinions about a club they do not even support.

I suppose it was the same in the 90's, when many enjoyed Liverpool's fall from grace after their success in the 80's. One difference for me, at least from my experiences, is that throughout the 90's at 00's I'd still hear many many Liverpool fans still scream that Liverpool are the best club in the world, and quote trophy counts to try and prove a point. Despite clearly being poor at that time. Whereas now, I personally don't hear many Utd fans shouting how wonderful Utd are as a club, and still the best club in the world. I pretty much hear Utd fans slate Man Utd as being awful, terrible players with a bad attitude, evil owners, etc.
 

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My opinion, which is from one that casts a casual glance as to what is happening at Old Trafford (that's the truth), is that ETH has been woeful and seemingly bereft of ideas and a plan. That's been played out on the pitch and in post-match interviews. He stayed well beyond his sell-by date but maybe there were no other options.

I think Gareth would do a great job at steadying the ship. Certainly better than what ETH has been providing. It won't be scintillating or exciting but there's a good chance he'll get those players who have any sense of professional pride at the very least trying their best for him, and by association the fans, which is a huge part of what they want to see.

Steady, build some sense of pride and keep an eye out for a manager with more to offer...

Like Tashy, I won't gloat, but get why it is tempting to do so!
 

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100% deserves it for me, his records are unbelievable for club and country.

Yep - it’s a shame when these come up that most look at the attacking flair players as whilst they are key there is also others that are just as key

When we won the CL - Mo gets the plaudits where as VVD was out of this world and imo should have won in 2019 - as opposed to the lazy Messi vote
 

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Yep - it’s a shame when these come up that most look at the attacking flair players as whilst they are key there is also others that are just as key

When we won the CL - Mo gets the plaudits where as VVD was out of this world and imo should have won in 2019 - as opposed to the lazy Messi vote
But, VVD still beat Mo in the Ballon D'Or, so not sure the point you are making where Mo got the plaudits?
 

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Moving away from ETH and Man Utd


Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have both been fined for their part in the "mass confrontation" that occurred between their players in their game on Sunday 6th October.

It was an incident descibed as "handbags" by most onlookers.

No Nottingham Forest players threw any punches or attempted to slap any Chelsea players.

One Chelsea player attempted to slap a Nottingham Forest player.

You are all allowed one guess as to which club got a fine that was over three times larger than the other club's. ;)
 

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Moving away from ETH and Man Utd


Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have both been fined for their part in the "mass confrontation" that occurred between their players in their game on Sunday 6th October.

It was an incident descibed as "handbags" by most onlookers.

No Nottingham Forest players threw any punches or attempted to slap any Chelsea players.

One Chelsea player attempted to slap a Nottingham Forest player.

You are all allowed one guess as to which club got a fine that weas over three times larger than the other club's.

How come they fined Forest more ? Was it due to accumulation of offences
 

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How come they fined Forest more ? Was it due to accumulation of offences
Apparently because they refused to admit any blame - which is a bit silly if so - BUT I notice Jackson hasn't admitted slapping Morato and still hasn't been fined for it.

Still seems a bit ridiculous that the punishment was THREE times that of Chelsea (who instigated the whole thing). If you're going to fine the teams for confrontation, you HAVE to fine the ONLY player who actually raised hands and slapped an opponent.
 

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Apparently because they refused to admit any blame - which is a bit silly if so - BUT I notice Jackson hasn't admitted slapping Morato and still hasn't been fined for it.

Still seems a bit ridiculous that the punishment was THREE times that of Chelsea (who instigated the whole thing). If you're going to fine the teams for confrontation, you HAVE to fine the ONLY player who actually raised hands and slapped an opponent.

Jackson getting away with raising his hands is ridiculous

It was clear as day

Was it a strong challenge from Williams and then they all went a bit mad
 

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How come they fined Forest more ? Was it due to accumulation of offences
absolutely yes....they took previous fines and offences into consideration...

Chelsea...

The Regulatory Commission considered previous sanctions imposed on Chelsea FC with regard to breaches of Rule E20 which are detailed as follows:
(1) The club was fined £22,500.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Leicester City FC on 18 May 2021;
(2) The club was also fined £25,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Liverpool FC on 28 August 2021.

Forest...
(1) The club was fined £10,000.00 for an incident that occurred in an EFL Championship fixture v Derby County FC on 22 January 2022;
(2) The club was fined £25,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Crystal Palace FC on 12 November 2022;
(3) The club was fined £40,000.00 for an incident that occurred in an EFL Cup fixture v Wolverhampton Wanderers FC on 11 January 2023;
(4) The club was fined £55,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Wolverhampton Wanderers on 1 April 2023; and
(5) The club was fined £75,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Liverpool FC on 2 March 2024.

Seems that Forest struggle to learn their lessons and if you read the FA Report at the bottom of the article, sections 30 onwards, it is very obvious why the FA feel that forest deserve a bigger fine.
 

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absolutely yes....they took previous fines and offences into consideration...

Chelsea...

The Regulatory Commission considered previous sanctions imposed on Chelsea FC with regard to breaches of Rule E20 which are detailed as follows:
(1) The club was fined £22,500.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Leicester City FC on 18 May 2021;
(2) The club was also fined £25,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Liverpool FC on 28 August 2021.

Forest...
(1) The club was fined £10,000.00 for an incident that occurred in an EFL Championship fixture v Derby County FC on 22 January 2022;
(2) The club was fined £25,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Crystal Palace FC on 12 November 2022;
(3) The club was fined £40,000.00 for an incident that occurred in an EFL Cup fixture v Wolverhampton Wanderers FC on 11 January 2023;
(4) The club was fined £55,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Wolverhampton Wanderers on 1 April 2023; and
(5) The club was fined £75,000.00 for an incident that occurred in a Premier League fixture v Liverpool FC on 2 March 2024.

Seems that Forest struggle to learn their lessons and if you read the FA Report at the bottom of the article, sections 30 onwards, it is very obvious why the FA feel that forest deserve a bigger fine.


That is a lot in a short period since coming back to the prem

That also doesn’t include the stuff with the owner
 
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