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I've been busy with work, so definitely missed that, apologies!

Not really sure how anyone who's seen the video thinks it's "subjective" though - he clearly slaps him in the face - Morato's head doesn't just spin on its own. 🤷‍♂️


Not really surprised - on we move.
He basically got off on a technicality, as the law says:

"In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible."

I suppose the last bit is there so that someone isn't sent off for something like where their hand hits an opponents face in some sort of gesture, but a gesture clearly not designed to do any harm. Thus, Jackson got away with it for failing to make proper contact. Although, he could still have got sent off for the words in the first part of the law, I guess, which states:

"Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made."

Perhaps both parts of violent conduct are slightly contradictory, if trying to abide strictly by the written words?

He was a stupid boy, and ended up being one of those ones that a red card would not have been overturned had the officials sent him off.
 

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He basically got off on a technicality, as the law says:

"In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible."

I suppose the last bit is there so that someone isn't sent off for something like where their hand hits an opponents face in some sort of gesture, but a gesture clearly not designed to do any harm. Thus, Jackson got away with it for failing to make proper contact. Although, he could still have got sent off for the words in the first part of the law, I guess, which states:

"Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made."

Perhaps both parts of violent conduct are slightly contradictory, if trying to abide strictly by the written words?

He was a stupid boy, and ended up being one of those ones that a red card would not have been overturned had the officials sent him off.
The rule itself is ridiculous. "It's ok to purposefully strike another player, as long as it's not very hard" :LOL: :LOL:

Baffling, really.

Just hope we can get something from Palace Monday as my cousin's visiting from the US and it's the first game I've been able to make this season.
 

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Last wins by English managers:

• Champs Lge - never
• European Cup - 1984
• Europa League - never
• Europa Conference - never
• UEFA Cup - 1984
• Intertoto Cup - 2006
• Cup Winners' Cup - 1997

• Eng PL - never
• Eng top flight - 1992
• FA Cup - 2008
• League Cup - 2004

• Spanish Lge - 1985
• German Lge - never
• Italian Lge - 1950
• French Lge - 1946
• Dutch Lge - 1992
• Swedish Lge - 1989
• Danish Lge - 2001
• Portuguese Lge - 1996
• Scottish Lge - 2021

At least Gerrard has done the business in recent times, albeit in the farmers league :)
 

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Last wins by English managers:

• Champs Lge - never
• European Cup - 1984
• Europa League - never
• Europa Conference - never
• UEFA Cup - 1984
• Intertoto Cup - 2006
• Cup Winners' Cup - 1997

• Eng PL - never
• Eng top flight - 1992
• FA Cup - 2008
• League Cup - 2004

• Spanish Lge - 1985
• German Lge - never
• Italian Lge - 1950
• French Lge - 1946
• Dutch Lge - 1992
• Swedish Lge - 1989
• Danish Lge - 2001
• Portuguese Lge - 1996
• Scottish Lge - 2021

At least Gerrard has done the business in recent times, albeit in the farmers league :)
Easy to see why we went with Tuchel really. I’m sure it’s been discussed to death as well but the nonsense and faux outrage about him being foreign has been quite ridiculous.
 

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Easy to see why we went with Tuchel really. I’m sure it’s been discussed to death as well but the nonsense and faux outrage about him being foreign has been quite ridiculous.

There also needs to be a touch of context - how many English managers have been in charge of the top clubs in that period to give them a chance of winning the top trophies
 

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Last wins by English managers:

• Champs Lge - never
• European Cup - 1984
• Europa League - never
• Europa Conference - never
• UEFA Cup - 1984
• Intertoto Cup - 2006
• Cup Winners' Cup - 1997

• Eng PL - never
• Eng top flight - 1992
• FA Cup - 2008
• League Cup - 2004

• Spanish Lge - 1985
• German Lge - never
• Italian Lge - 1950
• French Lge - 1946
• Dutch Lge - 1992
• Swedish Lge - 1989
• Danish Lge - 2001
• Portuguese Lge - 1996
• Scottish Lge - 2021

At least Gerrard has done the business in recent times, albeit in the farmers league :)
How’s he doing in the “collect a pension” league?
Has he helped grow the game?
 

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I think the FA have been telling porkies with regards to the alleged ten managers they've interviewed.
Not Howe and not Potter ............................. so who are the imaginary ten?
 

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I think the FA have been telling porkies with regards to the alleged ten managers they've interviewed.
Not Howe and not Potter ............................. so who are the imaginary ten?

And more specifically, who are the English candidates?
 

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I think the FA have been telling porkies with regards to the alleged ten managers they've interviewed.
Not Howe and not Potter ............................. so who are the imaginary ten?
Catering manager
Marketing manager
Facilities manager


Like the NHS ;-)
 

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I think the FA have been telling porkies with regards to the alleged ten managers they've interviewed.
Not Howe and not Potter ............................. so who are the imaginary ten?
What makes me chuckle and it’s probably close to wetting myself laughing, is all the money The English have “ invested in football”. Where? Where are the English managers coming through. I remember years ago when me son was 14 yr old, 22 years ago. Tennessee state champions under 16’s were in the same tournament in Sondrio North Italy. The coach was English, he was snapped up by his university and within 2 years his year was state champions. The head of the university said how do we go to the next level. He told them the kids had to go to Europe, they had to have there shirts pulled by the Europeans, and kicked to death by the British. They had to understand the technical brilliance or Europeans and the passion of the English. He said he would never ever be given the opportunity of doing that whilst in England. He had to travel to get the experience. They lost in the final to a team from Belgium.
However it is not all down to the FA.
The village next to me Clipstone, it has two councils within its boundary. The present football club is in the heart of the village. It now has to move to the far edge of the village. Why? It is currently in Mansfield district council, it has it quota of all weather training facilities Within its boundary’s. However Newark and Sherwood does not so it is moving to N and S district to access funding. 😳. What is that all about.
 

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First time I've ever seen VAR show 2 separate incidents. Was it red for one in particular or red for both combined?

Or, 2 red cards for the same player, a red for each incident?
 

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Having seen the United starting line up I really fear for them against Brentford.

The spine has Eriksen, Casemiro, De Ligt and Evans. In other words, less pace than my 86 year old mother.

I still have 2-1 United in my Super6 because I remain hugely reluctant to alter predictions after I have made them, as it invariably comes back to bite me on the arse, but this now has a Brentford win written all over it.

I cannot fathom why the club chased Ugarte all summer to leave him on the bench and start with a Casemiro/Eriksen pairing.
 
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