The Footie Thread

[PaulMdj]

Which is why the phrase was “potentially”

And also worth remembering that City have been found guilty once before

The loophole that allowed them avoid punishment doesn’t exist with the PL charges

Your main Sponsor is Standard Charter Bank, they have been fined hundreds of millions for breaking money laundering rules, the rules over Ukraine and Russia and dealing with terrorists groups.

Do you believe it is morally correct for Liverpool to continue the sponsorship deal with them?

The deal has been in place over 10 years and during this time they been done in the US, UK and Europe.

 

[PaulMdj]

When did I say that

You’re not condemning it while talking about City and morals.
Its double standards.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Your main Sponsor is Standard Charter Bank, they have been fined hundreds of millions for breaking money laundering rules, the rules over Ukraine and Russia and dealing with terrorists groups.

Do you believe it is morally correct for Liverpool to continue the sponsorship deal with them?

The deal has been in place over 10 years and during this time they been done in the US, UK and Europe.

As I said in other post - I would rather they not be sponsered by the British bank

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You’re not condemning it while talking about City and morals.
Its double standards.

How often do we need to condemn who a club takes sponsorship from ?

Shall I put a caveat below every post to say that I would prefer the club to not be sponsered by “x company”

shall we point out every single club that has sponserships that are within the rules but the company has dealings with x and y ?

How is it relevant to what Man City have been charged with

 

[PaulMdj]

How often do we need to condemn who a club takes sponsorship from ?

Shall I put a caveat below every post to say that I would prefer the club to not be sponsered by “x company”

shall we point out every single club that has sponserships that are within the rules but the company has dealings with x and y ?

How is it relevant to what Man City have been charged with

I’m certainly not jealous of City have no need to be

and Morals and acting within the rules are still alive and well for many

Finally! So we’ve gone full circle, nobody is expecting caveats or pointing out other Clubs etc, because nobody else is making statements like the bit in bold, only you.

Please, please point out just who the “many” are that have morals and acting within the rules because as has been pointed out, Liverpool don’t seem to have an issue ignoring rules or morals when money is concerned.

And supporters like yourself are unhappy with their behaviour.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Begs the question if you knew of the stadiums history and tendency to flood why you agreed to move there. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2ypg2m9rpo

Seems rich to blame the council if the area was already susceptible. You wanted to return to Plough Lance and this was the only facility

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Finally! So we’ve gone full circle, nobody is expecting caveats or pointing out other Clubs etc, because nobody else is making statements like the bit in bold, only you.

Please, please point out just who the “many” are that have morals and acting within the rules because as has been pointed out, Liverpool don’t seem to have an issue ignoring rules or morals when money is concerned.

And supporters like yourself are unhappy with their behaviour.

Simples. Don't condone morality and take a high ground when your team has history of its own and is clearly not without receipt of money from foreign governments whatever nice name tag you try and attach to it

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Finally! So we’ve gone full circle, nobody is expecting caveats or pointing out other Clubs etc, because nobody else is making statements like the bit in bold, only you.

Please, please point out just who the “many” are that have morals and acting within the rules because as has been pointed out, Liverpool don’t seem to have an issue ignoring rules or morals when money is concerned.

And supporters like yourself are unhappy with their behaviour.

Then take out the word morals then especially when it’s very much an open book and it’s prob fair that morals in professional sports even more so football are questionable so yep hands up on that one

Any rules that have been broken by the club i would expect the club to face a disciplinary process and punishment if they have been found to have broken any rules

 

[PaulMdj]

Then take out the word morals then especially when it’s very much an open book and it’s prob fair that morals in professional sports even more so football are questionable so yep hands up on that one

Any rules that have been broken by the club i would expect the club to face a disciplinary process and punishment if they have been found to have broken any rules

And I agree, sadly the Clubs employ legal experts to dodge and weave.

Have a good week.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Lots of stuff all over social media about Tuchel and Man Utd - apparently some meeting with Ratcliffe , even Romano has highlighted that he is a target

Really - https://www.skysports.com/football/...g-expects-to-remain-in-charge-at-old-trafford

 

[Golfmmad]

is it now impossible to talk about issues within the league and opposition teams without it resorting to whataboutary

The Man City case is the biggest incident that’s occured within the league and sport for as long as most of us can remember

There has been potentially systematic cheating that has potentially affected multiple teams across a number of divisions also spreading into Europe

The whole thing has the potential to destroy football even more so

Anytime someone dares to talk about it - there is attempts to justify either by stating the rules are wrong or whataboutary in regards something another club has done

Did Liverpool have scouts that logged into a scouting system 10 years ago - apparently , was it right , no one has suggested it was

Just like it wasn’t right that Liverpool had an illegal approach to VVD.

No one is saying either action is right

But it doesn’t mean it needs to be used as some sort of whataboutary to counter other clubs that have broken or potentially broken the rules

It’s nothing but faux tribalism

It's not whataboutary, it's "philibustering"!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It's not whataboutary, it's "philibustering"!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Iniesta retires https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1l47erqep4o

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Shame some of the new generation will be unavailable https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0kj1jv28zvo

 

[Piece]

Iniesta retires https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1l47erqep4o

Perhaps my favourite ever player and one I would rank above Ronaldo and Messi.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Perhaps my favourite ever player and one I would rank above Ronaldo and Messi.

Not sure he ever quite got the recognition he should when all the hype was around Messi and Ronaldo. Brilliant nonetheless

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Perhaps my favourite ever player and one I would rank above Ronaldo and Messi.

He was brilliant and it’s been the worse kept secret his retirement

Hope he goes into management

Certainly up there with the best midfielders that have been

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Like the look of Marmoush https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts

 

[Tashyboy]

Nothing to do with whataboutery or tribalism.

It’s about being honest! You’re claiming it’s about morals whilst your Club (like many others, including mine) have none.

You go on about Oil money and State owned Clubs while your own Club takes Oil money and cash from the Chinese Government.

Your points would hold more credibility if you weren’t trying to be whiter than white.

Am sorry but this kind of honesty has no place on this forum. At the very least a public flogging or a more severe infraction is required

 

[Tashyboy]

Your main Sponsor in the Far East is MG China, a deal worth millions every year, a State owned Company. China that Country with the terrible human rights record.

Man City are currently charged with breaking the rules, haven’t been found guilty.

All PL Clubs get money from the Middle East, so once again, a little bit of dirty money is OK, just not a lot.

And the post I put up last night, look at the statement the Club put out when paying City “hush money” “never accepted liabilty or wrong doing”

If City are found guilty then rightly so they will be punished, but please lets not use the morals card when it’s been proven your Club has acted inappropriately at times, and been charged, found guilty and punished.

Where is the clap emoji. found it