PaulMdj
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Is he going to drop Kane?
Arthur Wedge
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Of course he isn’t - he doesn’t have the balls to do it
PaulMdj
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So discussing dropping him and how to play other options is pretty pointless, we have to look at why and how the players he will pick can get the best out of each other.
Pin-seeker
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It’s all pretty pointless,it’s not like he’s going to read this & take your opinion on boardSo discussing dropping him and how to play other options is pretty pointless, we have to look at why and how the players he will pick can get the best out of each other.
harpo_72
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It’s all pretty pointless,it’s not like he’s going to read this & take your opinion on board
so true .. Kane needs an injection to get some of the immobility reduced..
bladeplayer
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I think Foden needs dropping . England have the best attacking options and players in the comp its a pity they dont go at teams more
Some of the play against the Swiss was alot better than before so building nicely .
What ever happens next . GS has got ye to a Euros final nearly won . Semis in worlds . At least a semi now and look at ages of panel and peno takers the other night
English team is in good place for good few years
Some of the play against the Swiss was alot better than before so building nicely .
What ever happens next . GS has got ye to a Euros final nearly won . Semis in worlds . At least a semi now and look at ages of panel and peno takers the other night
English team is in good place for good few years
clubchamp98
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He should though.
Put him on as a sub after 65 mins when the defenders are getting tired.
Let Toney or Watkins run them around a bit.
4LEX
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Harry Kane is a world class striker but he's lost his pace (he was never really quick anyway). He's evolved his game to become more of a number 10, someone that drops deep and uses his vision and passing to knit the attack together, then get into the box. He can't get onto the end of through balls anymore. The issue is the space he likes to play is already crowded as Bellingham and Foden operate there naturally, so playing all three is just a car crash. If you're going to play Foden and Bellingham then you need to either go for Toney (for his hold up play) or Watkins (for his runs and pace). Both can press too.
It's just madness to persist with this set up due to loyalty or stubborness.
It's just madness to persist with this set up due to loyalty or stubborness.
Orikoru
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People talk like Kane is on the verge of retirement - he's not yet 31, he's in his prime. Ask Van Dijk which England striker he wants to face on Wednesday and you can guarantee he won't say Harry Kane.
Arthur Wedge
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Not so sure - VVD won’t mind Kane as he won’t be near the box and when he is his movement isn’t great , he wouldn’t want to face the pace and movement of Watkins or Toney
Kane hasn’t been a threat for multiple games now - hasn’t troubled many CBs
Orikoru
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Quick and strong forwards are ten-a-penny, and you'll know that Van Dijk deals with them in his sleep every week. Kane is cleverer than both put together though, and his movement makes him difficult to mark.
He's still managed two goals in a shocking team that creates zero chances.
Norrin Radd
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What movement?Quick and strong forwards are ten-a-penny, and you'll know that Van Dijk deals with them in his sleep every week. Kane is cleverer than both put together though, and his movement makes him difficult to mark.
He's still managed two goals in a shocking team that creates zero chances.
PaulMdj
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I’ll go with madness, loyalty & stubborness.
harpo_72
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Since his knee injury VVD has not been the tour de force he was. Check your Liverpool results and who has bothered him .. Kane hasn’t ( I know he was in Germany last season)Quick and strong forwards are ten-a-penny, and you'll know that Van Dijk deals with them in his sleep every week. Kane is cleverer than both put together though, and his movement makes him difficult to mark.
He's still managed two goals in a shocking team that creates zero chances.
Fast strong strikers are successful and they are what you need. You need the ball to slip over the top down their sides or them to hold it up
PaulMdj
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Still can’t believe people think Kane is the issue, he’s one of 9 issues imo.
Arthur Wedge
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Quick and strong forwards are ten-a-penny, and you'll know that Van Dijk deals with them in his sleep every week. Kane is cleverer than both put together though, and his movement makes him difficult to mark.
He's still managed two goals in a shocking team that creates zero chances.
Kanes “movement” has been non existent, and when he does move it’s slow and laboured , VVD had trouble last season at times with forwards with pace , not someone who is dropping deep all the time with no midfield runners
Kane hasn’t had a great game yet but he’s no dinosaur either. He’s averaged over 30 goals a season for the last 4 seasons including the one just finished. If he isn’t picked to start, should he come on later when the central defenders aren’t fresh?
PaulMdj
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You see, I don’t get this (bit in bold) that has always been Kane’s style, he’s done this at Bayern as well this season, so if you play Kane, you have to the runners from midfield.
Why aren’t we criticising them? Kane is playing any different to every other time he’s played for England.
The width and supply is shocking
clubchamp98
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So Kane drops deep plays a lovely ball to Saka who beats his man but can’t cross the ball because there’s nobody in the penalty area!
Both Kanes goals have been in the six yd box.
No runners getting ahead of Kane is a big problem.
All this is the managers fault ,if he can’t see it why can’t he?
He needs to instruct Kane to stay high or tell the midfielders to get in the box when he drops deep.
It’s not rocket science but shows the mentality of the team is still defensive minded!
I agree the service is poor but that’s partly Kanes own fault.
He has played like this for years and imo GS should have sorted it out years ago when Kane still had some pace.
It’s why most of us don’t like GS we’ve been hard to watch for a long time not just now.
Both Kanes goals have been in the six yd box.
No runners getting ahead of Kane is a big problem.
All this is the managers fault ,if he can’t see it why can’t he?
He needs to instruct Kane to stay high or tell the midfielders to get in the box when he drops deep.
It’s not rocket science but shows the mentality of the team is still defensive minded!
I agree the service is poor but that’s partly Kanes own fault.
He has played like this for years and imo GS should have sorted it out years ago when Kane still had some pace.
It’s why most of us don’t like GS we’ve been hard to watch for a long time not just now.
harpo_72
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But you have understood that the opposition’s defensive and midfield lines are compressed and high up the field ? .. it’s your CF that creates the separation.. and he isn’t, which is why all your attacking midfielders don’t have space or are closed down fast.
Look across at the other teams that score, they create the separation early on with some well timed runs and balls over the top. Apart from the Spanish but they move the ball quickly through each other compensating- we don’t move it quickly enough nor do our wingers or speed men offer an out let like to 2 Spanish youngsters
