It will make everyone happy. Apparently Utd fans will be happy. I know opposing fans will be, for sure
I suspect the new hierarchy knows a little more about employing a manager than the average fan.
I suspect the new hierarchy knows a little more about employing a manager than the average fan.
The average fan has to watch the product mind, we do have eyes.
I'd also say business is not the same as football management, very different. They may be able to transfer many skillsets across but on this one, different game.
Bottom line now is that, from this point on, ten Hag has fewer excuses for what is going on out on the pitch.
The hierarchy is now largely in place. There appears to be some common sense developing around transfer policy.
So, hopefully, ten Hag can now focus on matters which impact on performances on the pitch.
We will see.
I think ETH needs time to get the team together including new signings. If however they are struggling after 6 games and the football being payed is ugly then I think he'll be under huge pressure again
clubchamp98
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So England are thinking of going to a back three!
I wonder if this has come from the players fed up with GS tactics ?
Not that we’re telling our opponents what we’re going to do
I wonder if this has come from the players fed up with GS tactics ?
Not that we’re telling our opponents what we’re going to do
Swango1980
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Are the team and tactics now being revealed more than 48 hours before the game now? If so, are they leaked by players (or their agents), or are media able to work it out based on training patterns?So England are thinking of going to a back three!
I wonder if this has come from the players fed up with GS tactics ?
Not that we’re telling our opponents what we’re going to do
However, if the rumours are that Southgate is going to adopt different tactics to the first 4 games, it probably isn't very believable to anyone. So, if they do play with a back 3, it will still probably come as a shock to Switzerland
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
But they went to a back 3 with wing backs in extra time, it just didn't help that the whole team thought he meant back 10Are the team and tactics now being revealed more than 48 hours before the game now? If so, are they leaked by players (or their agents), or are media able to work it out based on training patterns?
However, if the rumours are that Southgate is going to adopt different tactics to the first 4 games, it probably isn't very believable to anyone. So, if they do play with a back 3, it will still probably come as a shock to Switzerland
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
I think it’s just to change the narrative from the criticism of his set up.
No manager gives his team away before he has to.
Just the media imo.
Is football management really different or are some team managers dinosaurs? Bear with me it’s an off the cuff thought. With OptiStats surely players performance levels can all add up to an overall number that is better than the overall number than the next team. Admittedly, the system used will also impact on the results against certain teams but, again, surely the metrics to measure that is available?
Could it also be a forced hand with Guehi suspended, Trippier carrying a knock and Stones fitness a lottery
If you listen to managers speak now they will all talk about the stats collected. All of them have a full time stats analyst, no one has the edge on that. However, we all know that stats only tell part of the story. A player may make lots of runs, were they any use? Was a Berbatov heat map relevant? Stats feed into the equation but there is so much more to football than statistical analysis.
Arthur Wedge
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Does it ? How many football managers has INEOS hired ?
As said previously- opposing fans are happy that ETH is staying - it speaks volumes
It’s not just INEOS, Phil, is it? There’s a hierarchy there now beyond Jim Ratcliffe and Dave Brailsford.
Don't let facts get in the way.
Arthur Wedge
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But doesn’t Ineos run the football side now ? Who else in the hierarchy that has the experience of appointing football managers
Who was it that made the choice to keep ETH
Dan Ashworth has only just started
People employ people to employ people. By the time I retired I was a million miles away from the coal face, including managing across very diverse industrial divisions. The issue becomes knowing how to manage the difference, not the subject.
Arthur Wedge
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They do - but it will be interesting to know who made the choice to stick with ETH - Ineos run the Football side - at Nice they have Maurice in place, Edwards has now been put in place in Man Utd.
Swango1980
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How many football managers has the average fan employed?
Yes, Ineos run the footballing side but at that (very high) level of business Ineos will have been advised by experts. These are multi-multi millions of pounds businesses. They’re not managed on the back of a fag packet. To suggest otherwise is ridiculously naive.
