The Footie Thread

[Tashyboy]

You must be conflicted in all this as a lifelong fan?

Obviously over the moon with all your success and how you operate on the football side of it. However the business side is dodgy as it gets. The defence other bigger clubs all undersold their deals and your new sponsors happended to see the true potential of Man City so paid more is laughable. Even more so when these deals largely happen to come from Abu Dhabi, whose ruling family plus the actual Royal family and prime minister of the UAE happen to own the club.

I would never hear a word about corruption in English football but since those from the Middle East have got involved I'm not so sure.

Abu Dhabi and Man City
Saudi's and Newcastle plus buying up sport like golf and boxing. They'll buy the World Cup soon too
Throw in Qatar and the World Cup they clearly purchased
PL refs going to the Middle East on nice little earners mid season

Rules on joint owners have this week been seemingly washed away by UEFA as they're too scared to take those clubs on plus Man Utd's new owners who own multiple teams.

Back to Man City. The answer is simple, abide by the rules the Premier League set. If you don't agree with them, get a vote called in to change them. If you can't do that then either stick to the rules or quit the league. To delay the charges for years with timewasting lawyers has cast a shadow over all your success and to now try to sue the PL is disgraceful IMO.

Quite a good read but like many a neutral football fan, emotion seems to have taken over from facts which deems most of what you have written as rubbish.
The owners of City are from Abu Dhabi, however 13% of the club is owned by a Chinese consortium. No different than Sir Jim buying into Utd. And talking of Chinese, a lot of investment and sponsorship comes from China. And to that matter from America and Puma.
Quote,

Manchester City have signed a £650million kit deal with Puma, one of the biggest commercial contracts in football history.

Have a Google and find out how many worldwide companies actually invest in City outside of Abu Dhabi
Once more you quote ownership of two clubs have been washed away by UEFA. So why quote that on a City discussion. It’s not old news. You could have mentioned it on a Utd forum. What is “to scared to take on those clubs inc Utd actually mean”. Or does UEFA know that its ruling was illegal. What exactly is illegal about a club or company trying to expand. Is there a really a conflict of interests.
You talk about the answer is simple abide by the rules. What exactly are these made up rules re FFP, Which are changing this year. Do you know that one of Citys complaints re the Premier league is that the Premier league tried to keep as much money as possible for the premier league teams rather than distribute some of its tv money to the rest of the football league. Yet the Premier league is holier than thou when it comes to other people spending money. Hypocrisy.
Do you know how many clubs have gone into administration since FFP was introduced. 14. It’s not working.
We have FFP, and yet City are spending £300 million improving the ground and area around City. But the Premier league allow that. Hypocrisy.

I lost a lot of intrest in football a few years back at the way it is run. FFP, VAR, UEFA, FIFA, Corruption in football. But what does my head in most in trying to defend a club who has put hundreds of millions into football and not taken it out. And that is supposed to be wrong. Hypocrisy.

 

[Orikoru]

Think scrapping it is a ridiculous throw toys out idea. It would be worse without it

Needs improving not scrapping

Don't want to put a % on it but isn't the vaste majority of issues not var related but actually ref competence related

Sure, but VAR's existence and the reliance upon it is a big part of why the officiating standard is now at an all-time low. If we're keeping it (well, we are) there needs to be a huge reform of how it's used and the laws of the games that they've completely ruined by trying to bend them in such a way that makes them black and white on video (which patently didn't work).

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Man City have financially cheated - everyone knows that , it was found out by UEFA but expensive lawyers and delaying actions helped them get off

They were still found guilty

Everyone knows they have broken the financial rules

Their owners don’t like they fact they can’t do what they want and are trying to counter the charges with the suing of the prem - it’s embarrassing that they have this belief they are being picked on

It’s a joke and everyone knows it’s a joke

This whole “world is against little old Man City” is pretty pathetic

They want to try and point to what Chelsea did etc but those rules weren’t in place

City have made the Prem a bit of joke

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Anyway onto the Euros

This is reported the 26 man squad

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Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale.

Defenders: Lewis Dunk, Joe Gomez, Marc Guehi, Ezri Konsa, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker.

Midfielders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Conor Gallagher, Kobbie Mainoo, Declan Rice, Adam Wharton.

Forwards: Jude Bellingham, Jarrod Bowen, Eberechi Eze, Phil Foden, Anthony Gordon, Harry Kane, Cole Palmer, Bukayo Saka, Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins.



Think the only worry outside the manager is left back

But got a lot of young exciting players there

 

[SteveW86]

Man City have financially cheated - everyone knows that , it was found out by UEFA but expensive lawyers and delaying actions helped them get off

They were still found guilty

Everyone knows they have broken the financial rules

Their owners don’t like they fact they can’t do what they want and are trying to counter the charges with the suing of the prem - it’s embarrassing that they have this belief they are being picked on

It’s a joke and everyone knows it’s a joke

This whole “world is against little old Man City” is pretty pathetic

They want to try and point to what Chelsea did etc but those rules weren’t in place

City have made the Prem a bit of joke

Come on Arthur, get off that fence and tell us what you really think

 

[clubchamp98]

Anyway onto the Euros

This is reported the 26 man squad

​

Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale.

Defenders: Lewis Dunk, Joe Gomez, Marc Guehi, Ezri Konsa, Luke Shaw, John Stones, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker.

Midfielders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Conor Gallagher, Kobbie Mainoo, Declan Rice, Adam Wharton.

Forwards: Jude Bellingham, Jarrod Bowen, Eberechi Eze, Phil Foden, Anthony Gordon, Harry Kane, Cole Palmer, Bukayo Saka, Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins.



Think the only worry outside the manager is left back

But got a lot of young exciting players there

How much footy has Shaw played lately is it a gamble?

Defence is average at best imo but the rest is capable of winning it.!

 

[Billysboots]

How much footy has Shaw played lately is it a gamble?

Defence is average at best imo but the rest is capable of winning it.!

Agreed, but in the absence of a recognised left back I think it’s a gamble GS has to take.

 

[Pin-seeker]

How much footy has Shaw played lately is it a gamble?

Defence is average at best imo but the rest is capable of winning it.!

That’s why we need to play more positive.
If we try & play it safe we’ve no chance.

 

[clubchamp98]

Agreed, but in the absence of a recognised left back I think it’s a gamble GS has to take.

Gomez has played there for us.
But against international quality I’m not sure!
But will Shaw be match fit ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Man City have financially cheated - everyone knows that , it was found out by UEFA but expensive lawyers and delaying actions helped them get off

They were still found guilty

Everyone knows they have broken the financial rules

Their owners don’t like they fact they can’t do what they want and are trying to counter the charges with the suing of the prem - it’s embarrassing that they have this belief they are being picked on

It’s a joke and everyone knows it’s a joke

This whole “world is against little old Man City” is pretty pathetic

They want to try and point to what Chelsea did etc but those rules weren’t in place

City have made the Prem a bit of joke

Now you know how we feel listening to you lot playing the poor us card ALL THE TIME

 

[Pin-seeker]

Personally I’d like to have seen Grealish in the squad.
Not a starter,but a good option to bring on.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The defence looks weak and I think there has to be a holding midfielder in front of them for some added protection and an easy out ball. Surprised by Grealish given his ability and experience in big games

 

[clubchamp98]

Come on Arthur, get off that fence and tell us what you really think

It’s what most of us think even City fans.

But it says to other clubs “ do what you like as long as you have a top team of lawyers and Barissters”

 

[clubchamp98]

Personally I’d like to have seen Grealish in the squad.
Not a starter,but a good option to bring on.

TBF he’s hardly played much as well.
Problem with being at City.

 

[Pin-seeker]

TBF he’s hardly played much as well.
Problem with being at City.

Yeah I get that & if you’re not playing regularly for club then you shouldn’t go.
But we all know what Grealish can do so I’d make an exception.

 

[PJ87]

Gomez has played there for us.
But against international quality I’m not sure!
But will Shaw be match fit ?

has he been "match" fit in the last 5 years? always seems a patch up job. shame. before his leg break he was a real talent

where have all our LBs gone

 

[Arthur Wedge]

How much footy has Shaw played lately is it a gamble?

Defence is average at best imo but the rest is capable of winning it.!

Not sure what other options they have at left back , Mitchell was one

Gomez played his best football for us at left back

Shaw won’t be fit for the first game

It’s what most of us think even City fans.

But it says to other clubs “ do what you like as long as you have a top team of lawyers and Barissters”

Everyone knows

There is no way that city have managed to bring in as much commercial income as the likes of man united , Barcelona or Madrid without the money coming from over inflated sponsorship from Abu Dhabi

 

[chrisd]

4 Crystal Palace players in - Eeeeeeagles !!!!!

 

[Neilds]

Gomez has played there for us.
But against international quality I’m not sure!
But will Shaw be match fit ?

He will have had a good rest, unlike the others who will, as we are sure to be told when we lose, are too tired after a long season with too many games

 

[PJ87]

4 Crystal Palace players in - Eeeeeeagles !!!!!

Fantastic to see. Truly gone are the days of "big" club bias . Good to see form rewarded

Been following eze for a while. There were big talks that Moyes wanted him over benrahma at the time but sully overruled him. What a player he has turned out to be.

Glad for Bowen that he made it. Feel he is around at the wrong time where Saka (who I rate highly no question) is younger and preferred to him so will find getting game time difficult but sometimes the best team doesn't have the best players at that time who knows

Palace got any left backs to offer!?