The Footie Thread

[fundy]

I support Man Utd, so I've long stopped comparing a player to their price tag, and judged them on what they give, or do not, to the team.

Grealish was never going to he better than DeBruyne, and I never thought he would transform City. Just another great option to have. Paying £100million for a squad player to be rotated in and out is a lot, yes. But, City could have paid £30-50 million for someone else, probably with a much bigger risk they could be a huge flop (not getting is side at all, and leaving on a free a few years later).

Players more expensive than Grealish have been Neymar, Mbappe, Felix, Coutinho and Griezman. The 2 at PSG have been decent (although, it is PSG in French league), the others not so much (not sure about Felix to be fair, don't watch Spanish footy). Players just below him are Lukaku, Dembele and Pogba. Hazard a few more places down.

If you took all players to sign for over £80-90 million, Grealish is possibly doing better than most.

You can tell what a hit Felix has been at Athletico that he is being hawked to every premier league club if they will pay a loan fee and his wages. That said I think hes a decent player, just at the wrong club with a ridiculous price tag on him

Its kind of scary how many 50m+ transfers dont work out (yes im looking at you Pepe lol)

 

[Tashyboy]

Felix is a good player in the wrong team. Atletico are a dirty team. Asking felix to play that style ain’t gonna happen.

 

[clubchamp98]

Felix is a good player in the wrong team. Atletico are a dirty team. Asking felix to play that style ain’t gonna happen.

Haarland manages ok in a dirty team!

 

[pokerjoke]

Casemiro makes United a much better team.

Haaland is obviously ridiculous (and De Bruyne is equally as ridiculous) but was a bit of a luxury signing for City. They’re hardly a bad team without him.

Casemiro is pulling the strings at United.

I certainly agree he makes us a more solid team,however we are starting to look a better team all round.
Imo he doesn’t pull the strings,I would say Erikson and Bruno do that more.

 

[Swango1980]

I certainly agree he makes us a more solid team,however we are starting to look a better team all round.
Imo he doesn’t pull the strings,I would say Erikson and Bruno do that more.

Eriksen and Bruno are the creative side. But, they can only do as well because Casemiro does what he does. He does the dirty work (very gracefully I'll add), and plays the right pass. If it wasn't someone doing as well as he did, you'd probably find Bruno and Eriksen would have to spend more time chasing shadows, and not getting the ball as much, or as much in dangerous areas, as they can now.

It is interesting to see how one player, in a particular position, can improve many around them. Not by leadership skills, but just by taking a bigger responsibility in one area of the pitch, and allowing others to focus more in their strong areas.

 

[pokerjoke]

Eriksen and Bruno are the creative side. But, they can only do as well because Casemiro does what he does. He does the dirty work (very gracefully I'll add), and plays the right pass. If it wasn't someone doing as well as he did, you'd probably find Bruno and Eriksen would have to spend more time chasing shadows, and not getting the ball as much, or as much in dangerous areas, as they can now.

It is interesting to see how one player, in a particular position, can improve many around them. Not by leadership skills, but just by taking a bigger responsibility in one area of the pitch, and allowing others to focus more in their strong areas.

Im not disagreeing with anything you write.
I was responding to Axtecs
He doesn’t pull the strings,simple as.
If he does the dirty work,that’s not the strings,is it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Looks like loads of rumours floating around

Chelsea seem to be the one willing to pay Fernandez release clause of £110mil

Liverpool looking to bring in Caicedo

Arsenal getting close to Mudryk

City looking at Leao

Newcastle at Tielemans

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1608217642720178178

??

 

[AmandaJR]

I saw that at the time. He looked mortified. Not sure who it hit!

 

[Pin-seeker]

I saw that at the time. He looked mortified. Not sure who it hit!

?? hands on head

 

[Baldy Bouncer]

Stay classy Pep

 

[Beezerk]

Someone in the bar just mentioned Pele has died, can’t find anything on the main news sites.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Someone in the bar just mentioned Pele has died, can’t find anything on the main news sites.

Sadly looks to be true.
RIP

 

[Beezerk]

Sadly looks to be true.
RIP

Proper proper legend.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1608538710026457088

legend - RIP

 

[Slime]

One of the few who can really be regarded as a true, world class legend.

Edson Arantes do Nascimento, RIP

 

[SteveW86]

The championship is proving itself to be an incredibly tight league again. Sunderland up to 4th, but only 10 points clear of the relegation zone.

 

[fundy]

The championship is proving itself to be an incredibly tight league again. Sunderland up to 4th, but only 10 points clear of the relegation zone.

Top 2 both look a good deal better than the rest of the league, both made hard work of things tonight though

 

[Fromtherough]

Up the Boro. This league is madness though.

 

[Bdill93]

I support Man Utd, so I've long stopped comparing a player to their price tag, and judged them on what they give, or do not, to the team.

Grealish was never going to he better than DeBruyne, and I never thought he would transform City. Just another great option to have. Paying £100million for a squad player to be rotated in and out is a lot, yes. But, City could have paid £30-50 million for someone else, probably with a much bigger risk they could be a huge flop (not getting is side at all, and leaving on a free a few years later).

Players more expensive than Grealish have been Neymar, Mbappe, Felix, Coutinho and Griezman. The 2 at PSG have been decent (although, it is PSG in French league), the others not so much (not sure about Felix to be fair, don't watch Spanish footy). Players just below him are Lukaku, Dembele and Pogba. Hazard a few more places down.

If you took all players to sign for over £80-90 million, Grealish is possibly doing better than most.

To continue this discussion -

Pep has definitely changed Grealish’s playing style. He absolutely does have a good turn of pace and can do a man - but just doesn’t these days. It’s so frustrating to watch him in the city team, personally feel like he’s held back playing pep’s football. The jack I watched for years at Villa would work his way through 2/3 players before laying the ball off, now he just plays the system.

Not saying he doesn’t suit the system or have the ability for city, but I think other teams would have got more out of Grealish in their teams than city have so far.

One thing he has never been is a goal scorer. He’s had a few bangers but his goal scoring instincts aren’t great. Pep managed to sort that with Sterling though and Jack will have about 4 years left on his contract so plenty of time to come good on that front yet.