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It was something his dad said before the World Cup in regards his son wanting to win trophies in all 5 of the top leagues - along the lines of 3 years here , couple in Spain , then Italy , then France and then finish in Germany

Also suspect there will be release clauses in his contracts as he goes around the clubs

as i said, based on the rumour they want to collect multiple signing on fees, we'll see, expect City just keep paying them more lol
 

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I don't think that there can be much doubt that Haaland is going to break the PL goal scoring record this season. Already on 20 goals after 14 games so just 24 games left for him to score another 15 goals to break the record. That seems like a no brainer. He's probably at the only club that can afford to keep him in the PL in terms of the increasing wages that will be required to keep him but it depends on what he wants from his career. If any club in the world had to choose just one player that they would want to sign given the opportunity is there any other player that would come close to Haaland at the minute?
 
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I don't think that there can be much doubt that Haaland is going to break the PL goal scoring record this season. Already on 20 goals after 14 games so just 24 games left for him to score another 15 goals to break the record. That seems like a no brainer. He's probably at the only club that can afford to keep him in the PL in terms of the increasing wages that will be required to keep him but it depends on what he wants from his career. If any club in the world had to choose just one player that they would want to sign given the opportunity is there any other player that would come close to Haaland at the minute?

Guess the only other player that comes close is Mbappe - his record at the moment is just as phenomenal plus he has the added bonus of being able to create and play out wide as well

Tough choice between the two
 

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I’m prepared to eat my words but I can’t really see Newcastle staying in the top 4, I think they’ll maybe struggle with top 6.
Injury free and with momentum top 6, a couple of injuries and I can’t see them keeping up.

To be honest.....7th place would be a huge success in the context of where we were for much of last season....far over-achieving compared to what most Toon fans would have expected at the beginning of the season (which is totally different to what most clueless outsiders were telling the world that Newcastle fans were expecting).

7th place may seem disappointing compared to where we are in the table now, but sometimes you can progress too quickly (remember Leeds....they shot for the stars and fell short and it cost them for many years). Europa Conference league football might be a better fit in season 2 of the rebuilding project than Champions League football.

However...its not just the 16 games of this season that we've been playing well....it was the latter half of last season as well (12 wins, 2 draws from the last 19 games of last season)....so in reality we've kept this form up already for nearly an entire season.

So far there has been nothing to suggest that we cant continue to challenge for the top 4...yes there will be games that are lost...not only to the teams around us (mind you...we've already picked up 8 points in 5 games against the so called big 6) but also to teams lower down the table who are naturally fighting for their own positions.

As Greavsie used to say....footballs a funny old game...no predicting what might happen....could end up mid table obscurity!!!
 

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Guess the only other player that comes close is Mbappe - his record at the moment is just as phenomenal plus he has the added bonus of being able to create and play out wide as well

Tough choice between the two

Can't believe that I completely forgot about Mbappe - doh! But even so I still think that if I had to make the choice I go for Haaland. Bringing in one player that almost guarantees 40+ goals a season makes an unbelievable difference to the season. For a mid-table club it immediately propels them into challenging for the CL places and for a title chasing squad it almost certainly makes the difference between being almost there and winning the league. I appreciate that the service he gets at a top club is so much better but even if he was at Wolves, Southampton or Everton they would almost certainly be 10 or 12 points better off just because of how good he is.
 
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Can't believe that I completely forgot about Mbappe - doh! But even so I still think that if I had to make the choice I go for Haaland. Bringing in one player that almost guarantees 40+ goals a season makes an unbelievable difference to the season. For a mid-table club it immediately propels them into challenging for the CL places and for a title chasing squad it almost certainly makes the difference between being almost there and winning the league. I appreciate that the service he gets at a top club is so much better but even if he was at Wolves, Southampton or Everton they would almost certainly be 10 or 12 points better off just because of how good he is.

Don’t think either would be the wrong choice - guess it would boil down to the style of play or the current squad your team have - Mbappe so far has 190 goals in 220 games for PSG - I think he would be just behind Haaland in terms of goals scored but would create a bit more. Given the choice I would just about go for Mbappe purely because I prefer him as a player
 

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That French league is really tough ?
Anyone who thought last night Casimero was signing of the season can join the Hockey club.
Haaland is by miles the best signing.
Watching De Bruyne is poetry.
 

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That French league is really tough ?
Anyone who thought last night Casimero was signing of the season can join the Hockey club.
Haaland is by miles the best signing.
Watching De Bruyne is poetry.
Not disagreeing.
But Haaland was an obvious fit for City.
Casimero not so much,but he’s been class
 

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That French league is really tough ?
Anyone who thought last night Casimero was signing of the season can join the Hockey club.
Haaland is by miles the best signing.
Watching De Bruyne is poetry.

Casemiro makes United a much better team.

Haaland is obviously ridiculous (and De Bruyne is equally as ridiculous) but was a bit of a luxury signing for City. They’re hardly a bad team without him.

Casemiro is pulling the strings at United.
 

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That French league is really tough ?
Anyone who thought last night Casimero was signing of the season can join the Hockey club.
Haaland is by miles the best signing.
Watching De Bruyne is poetry.
Did anyone say Casemiro was signing off the season? I guess it depends on your definition of what that means.

Is he going to win Premier League Player of the Year? No. Haaland probably is, so in that sense Haaland is the best player signed.

But, as Aztecs said, it is very probably Casemiro makes a much better positive difference to United, significantly improving them. Haaland improves City, but relatively by the same amount? I reckon they'd still be unbelievable without him.

Arsenal fans might have wanted Jesus in the list before Xmas? He might not have scored loads, but certainly helped very much in their system.

One think I am happy to concede, Player of the Season will almost certainly not be Darwin Nunez.
 

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I think it is fair to say that Grealish has set my tourettes off tonight. ?

I really find him frustrating. Always the same thing, receives the ball and runs away from goal or across the pitch trying to get a free kick. Never ever faces the defender up and goes at him or, it seems, runs behind. Kevin did the latter a couple of times so it was clearly an option. So pleased he gave Haaland a tap in as I never thought he'd beat the keeper. I never get that buzz of excitement or anticipation when he gets the ball.
 

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I really find him frustrating. Always the same thing, receives the ball and runs away from goal or across the pitch trying to get a free kick. Never ever faces the defender up and goes at him or, it seems, runs behind. Kevin did the latter a couple of times so it was clearly an option. So pleased he gave Haaland a tap in as I never thought he'd beat the keeper. I never get that buzz of excitement or anticipation when he gets the ball.
That is the type of player he is though. He isn't quick, and I don't think he has a decent burst of pace. DeBruyne is surprisingly quick when he stretches his legs.

I'm not sure Grealish tries to win fouls, he is just good at timing it so he nicks ball before tackle comes in.

He was frustrating early on, no doubt, as he missed a couple of sitters. And, some would prefer a strong, quick direct player out on the wing. But, he is always involved and he offers a different threat to the opponents. I'm sure Pep.is delighted to.have him, and have different options to try from the start, or from the bench.
 

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That is the type of player he is though. He isn't quick, and I don't think he has a decent burst of pace. DeBruyne is surprisingly quick when he stretches his legs.

I'm not sure Grealish tries to win fouls, he is just good at timing it so he nicks ball before tackle comes in.

He was frustrating early on, no doubt, as he missed a couple of sitters. And, some would prefer a strong, quick direct player out on the wing. But, he is always involved and he offers a different threat to the opponents. I'm sure Pep.is delighted to.have him, and have different options to try from the start, or from the bench.

I think the price tag will always hang over his head as he doesn't look £100m of player...

He's actually one of very few I feel plays better for England so maybe some of it is what Pep wants him to do. I'd rather see Foden who offers much more imo.
 

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That is the type of player he is though. He isn't quick, and I don't think he has a decent burst of pace. DeBruyne is surprisingly quick when he stretches his legs.

I'm not sure Grealish tries to win fouls, he is just good at timing it so he nicks ball before tackle comes in.

He was frustrating early on, no doubt, as he missed a couple of sitters. And, some would prefer a strong, quick direct player out on the wing. But, he is always involved and he offers a different threat to the opponents. I'm sure Pep.is delighted to.have him, and have different options to try from the start, or from the bench.

I mentioned exactly the same thing to my lad last night. Playing Leeds was always going to be difficult with them playing five at the back. Most of the time he was driven back but there is a reason that his highest goals in a season is 8. his finishing is atrocious. Gone are the days of Stirling and Sane bombing down the wing.

If you look at the tap in he gave Haaland, it was under-hit and Haaland had to adjust his “ tap in”.

Re Leeds, I think there survival depends on which Leeds turns up on the day. The first half was atrocious. The second half was a lot better. I think the relegation is going down to 5 or 6 teams and trying to be better than the worst 3. Ave a feeling a “ big name” team could be playing championship football next year.
 

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Did anyone say Casemiro was signing off the season? I guess it depends on your definition of what that means.

Is he going to win Premier League Player of the Year? No. Haaland probably is, so in that sense Haaland is the best player signed.

But, as Aztecs said, it is very probably Casemiro makes a much better positive difference to United, significantly improving them. Haaland improves City, but relatively by the same amount? I reckon they'd still be unbelievable without him.

Arsenal fans might have wanted Jesus in the list before Xmas? He might not have scored loads, but certainly helped very much in their system.

One think I am happy to concede, Player of the Season will almost certainly not be Darwin Nunez.

I think Nunez is a quality signing and he will get better in the prem, but after the Community shield when Nunez played well and Haaland was very iffy. The OOT Comparisons Between the two was laughable.
 

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I think the price tag will always hang over his head as he doesn't look £100m of player...

He's actually one of very few I feel plays better for England so maybe some of it is what Pep wants him to do. I'd rather see Foden who offers much more imo.
I support Man Utd, so I've long stopped comparing a player to their price tag, and judged them on what they give, or do not, to the team.

Grealish was never going to he better than DeBruyne, and I never thought he would transform City. Just another great option to have. Paying £100million for a squad player to be rotated in and out is a lot, yes. But, City could have paid £30-50 million for someone else, probably with a much bigger risk they could be a huge flop (not getting is side at all, and leaving on a free a few years later).

Players more expensive than Grealish have been Neymar, Mbappe, Felix, Coutinho and Griezman. The 2 at PSG have been decent (although, it is PSG in French league), the others not so much (not sure about Felix to be fair, don't watch Spanish footy). Players just below him are Lukaku, Dembele and Pogba. Hazard a few more places down.

If you took all players to sign for over £80-90 million, Grealish is possibly doing better than most.
 
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