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The bottom line is Spurs have an average defence and midfield. It's only the front 3/4 that are world class and manager.

Conte has done an incredible job in the circumstances. Obviously theres zero chance they'll win the title but another Top 4 and a domestic trophy would be a huge success and they're capable of that. They've won their home games and got two good draws away at Chelsea and West Ham which are two derby games. Great start.

Defence wise Romero looks quality and Diers fairly decent.
Midfield wise, you’re right we are poor there’s NO creativity. Hojberg is a decent holding player, but we haven’t had a real quality midfield since Eriksen along with Dembele
 

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Lot of new players but not getting enough time together

Cornet needs to play more

Bowen and rice out of form ATM

Well Bowen I think is targeted now

The way we are setting up the team and starting games has just got to change…we are so negative. Not one goal scored in a PL first half this season.

Moyes has got to take the handbrake off and allow some attacking football, At the moment we are always going to be chasing a draw 2nd half.
 
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The way we are setting up the team and starting games has just got to change…we are so negative. Not one goal scored in a PL first half this season.

Moyes has got to take the handbrake off and allow some attacking football, At the moment we are always going to be chasing a draw 2nd half.

He wont because he's a football dinosaur from the same mould as Allardyce,Hodgson and co.
 

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The way we are setting up the team and starting games has just got to change…we are so negative. Not one goal scored in a PL first half this season.

Moyes has got to take the handbrake off and allow some attacking football, At the moment we are always going to be chasing a draw 2nd half.


What I saw today, both full backs look scared to go forward (especially Cresswell who looks a shadow of the player he was) and Rice is almost an extra centre half, and thats not compensated by Soucek being any further forward. Sides are basically making sure Bowen is well looked after then being left just to deal with Antonio in most phases of play

Seem to have bought several attacking players but hard to see where any of them fit into Moyes scheme
 

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He wont because he's a football dinosaur from the same mould as Allardyce,Hodgson and co.

You don't last this long as a manager by being clueless but nearly all of the 'class of the early 90's', when he began, are either retired or scrimping a crust in the lower leagues or abroad with tin-pot clubs.

He's totally blinkered. Always had his 'my way or the highway' attitude. When it works then fine, when it doesn't, he doesn't know how to change it.

He has his favourites and will stick blindly to them. Something he did at United as well, even when they were crying out to be axed, and he's bloody awful with his use of substitutes.

His ability to generate admirable team spirit has also now been severely tested and he's started churning out bizarre statements and sly accusations like he did at Sunderland.

In short, he's been found out as the more cerebral coaches in today's most demanding league in the world see through his plans…The famous scene from Blackadder springs to mind.

'How can you possibly know that Blackadder ? It's classified information'

'Because it's exactly the same one you've used for the last 16 times'.

And now it’s time for him to go, Should the board fail in their duty a season like the relegation one at the Stadium of Light awaits. It already has that feel about it.

It's no country for old jocks.
 

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Just reading the headlines about the proposals for the Premier League meeting this week regarding the 2 national cup competitions.

Whether it has been for a while or not, the proposal would severely wound if not kill the League Cup. Clubs that have qualified for Europe may not need to enter or, at best enter an under 21 side. The argument is that it wuld give others a better chance of qualifying for the Europa League. Alternatively, it gets the top clubs out of a competition that they did not want to be in and they give away qualification for another competition that they do not want to be in (though the top 6 clubs rarely need the cup toqualify anyway).

Then you get rid of third and fourth round replays in the FA Cup. I can understand it more but still that deprives the lower league clubs of that chance to hold on for a draw at home then chance their arm at a big away replay and also take in the sort of revenue that they could only dream of.

This would appear to be the cost of the expanded champions league.

Usual caveat, I am a football follower not a massive fan but this does seem to just be a further blow to the domestic cups and possible the death knell for one of them which I can see becoming a EFL Cup soon.
 

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Just reading the headlines about the proposals for the Premier League meeting this week regarding the 2 national cup competitions.

Whether it has been for a while or not, the proposal would severely wound if not kill the League Cup. Clubs that have qualified for Europe may not need to enter or, at best enter an under 21 side. The argument is that it wuld give others a better chance of qualifying for the Europa League. Alternatively, it gets the top clubs out of a competition that they did not want to be in and they give away qualification for another competition that they do not want to be in (though the top 6 clubs rarely need the cup toqualify anyway).

Then you get rid of third and fourth round replays in the FA Cup. I can understand it more but still that deprives the lower league clubs of that chance to hold on for a draw at home then chance their arm at a big away replay and also take in the sort of revenue that they could only dream of.

This would appear to be the cost of the expanded champions league.

Usual caveat, I am a football follower not a massive fan but this does seem to just be a further blow to the domestic cups and possible the death knell for one of them which I can see becoming a EFL Cup soon.
If they make the League Cup optional I think bigger clubs would be silly to pull out of it. It's the perfect time to give your bench-warmers and youth products a game to prove themselves. Nobody ever said you have to play your full strength team. I don't know why anyone moans about it, they have big enough squads to rotate players.
 

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If they make the League Cup optional I think bigger clubs would be silly to pull out of it. It's the perfect time to give your bench-warmers and youth products a game to prove themselves. Nobody ever said you have to play your full strength team. I don't know why anyone moans about it, they have big enough squads to rotate players.

Not moaning about squad use, in fact I think that there is far too much reliance and emphasis on clubs being able to put out their first 11 and not have to use their squads, but making it an under 21 team or being able to withdraw if you are qualified for Europe does seem to diminish the competition further.
 

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Do we really need more European games? Like really? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a European fixture in general, but we are just going to surely get more games featuring matches with the Moldovan or Albabian leagues runners up.

Or, if the plan is to have more games featuring matches against the elite teams, I think that just dilutes the occasion a little. It is a magical night when your club is drawn against Real, Bayern, Barcelona, etc., clubs you may only come up against rarely, and only when you do well to get in later stages. If you are playing these teams nearly every year, to me it takes the shine of it a little.
 

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Do we really need more European games? Like really? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a European fixture in general, but we are just going to surely get more games featuring matches with the Moldovan or Albabian leagues runners up.

Or, if the plan is to have more games featuring matches against the elite teams, I think that just dilutes the occasion a little. It is a magical night when your club is drawn against Real, Bayern, Barcelona, etc., clubs you may only come up against rarely, and only when you do well to get in later stages. If you are playing these teams nearly every year, to me it takes the shine of it a little.
They are ruining the Champion's League just like they've ruined the World Cup. The name 'champions' league has been a joke for a long time already.
 
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