The Footie Thread

[GreiginFife]

Fair enough. It's not like he's wrong though, their squad is poor and never going to get results against City, Liverpool etc.

I'm not disagreeing. However, having read a few other sources it seems that his "outspokenness" is not isolated to just that 9-0 defeat and he has, supposedly, made other comments about the clubs seeming unwillingness to part with the cash whilst others (Both Fulham and Forrest were compared) are making hay, so to speak.

 

[Tashyboy]

So who had Scott Parker as first managerial casualty then?

A couple on here called it right ?

 

[Piece]

Management wise it's harsh, but if he's not towing the club line properly, then only himself to blame.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

From the statement I think it's less about results and more about his "outspoken attitude" regarding the way the club do business.

Or that shocking Cardigan he continues to wear??‍

 

[Swingalot]

Yeah not as small as Palace though?

you can go off people you know

 

[Norrin Radd]

Brighton to go top of the prem this evening, who would have thought.

 

[Yorkhacker]

Brighton to go top of the prem this evening, who would have thought.

Well they were top for 4 minutes on Saturday apparently!

 

[4LEX]

Parker is a very average manager regardless of the tough run. He had the best squad in the Championship and just about managed to creep over the line with a whimper. The fans were calling for his head at various points throughout the season. Poor football, lack of in game management, bad subs etc.

Bournemouth should've sacked him in the summer and got in someone with a proven record in the PL. They've now wasted 3 months but at least they've acted fast and have the majority of the season left. Parker will get some sympathy and probably find himself at West Brom when Bruce gets the boot in a few months!

 

[Norrin Radd]

Chris Houghton would be a good fit at the cherries

 

[4LEX]

Big Sam with Andy Carroll on a free

 

[Orikoru]

Dyche is the favourite at the moment, followed by Wilder. Would certainly be interesting to see how Dyche does at a new club. Near impossible to keep them up though in my opinion, so he might not want to take it on. Weirdly Michael Carrick and Thierry Henry are both 12/1 though so God knows.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Brighton to go top of the prem this evening, who would have thought.

Such a well run club, superb manager etc. Potter has surely to be mentioned when the next lot of top jobs come up for grabs.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

So how many academy graduates in the City team at the moment then; does it beat the 5 we had in the starting line up on Saturday? And Barcelona have just taken one of our academy graduates on a free.

Given the percentage of apprentices that make it in football, and the level at which we aim to be, there's no shame at all in the fact that players have to leave to maximise their potential.

If you view Tammy Abraham at Roma, Fikayo Tomori at AC Milan, Tina Livramento at Southampton, Nathan Are at Manchester City, Marc Guehi ay Crystal Palace, Tariq Lamptey at Brighton, Andreas Christensen at Barcelona, Ryan Bertrand at Leicester, Dominic Solanke at Bournemouth (via Liverpool), Bertrand Traore at Aston Villa, Ola Aina at Fulham and Mason Mount, Conor Gallagher, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Trevoh Chalobah and Reece James at Chelsea as evidence of failure of the academy then you're either a very hard taskmaster or you have no concept of how hard it is to make it at that level.

The point isn't whether your academy develops players, it's whether the club is a good place to go for an aspiring young player or will they largely get splinters or farmed out? The beginning of your post shows the difficulties for so many. All of those had to leave Chelsea to get regular first team action. The way the club works it wants instant players, it rarely has the patience to develop them. The academy is a very successful money maker, no question.

The five you mention currently at Chelsea, it looks as though Gallagher and Chalobah will move this window but the remaining 3 seem to be getting to be more regular game time. That's great to see, they are all quality players.

If Gordon goes to Chelsea I doubt he will start 15 games for you this season. That can't be good for his development.

 

[PJ87]

The point isn't whether your academy develops players, it's whether the club is a good place to go for an aspiring young player or will they largely get splinters or farmed out? The beginning of your post shows the difficulties for so many. All of those had to leave Chelsea to get regular first team action. The way the club works it wants instant players, it rarely has the patience to develop them. The academy is a very successful money maker, no question.

The five you mention currently at Chelsea, it looks as though Gallagher and Chalobah will move this window but the remaining 3 seem to be getting to be more regular game time. That's great to see, they are all quality players.

If Gordon goes to Chelsea I doubt he will start 15 games for you this season. That can't be good for his development.

Real question should be is Gordon worth the offer? I'd snap off their hands for 25 mil plus Gallagher alone .. adding in broja? Yes please .. take it and run

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Real question should be is Gordon worth the offer? I'd snap off their hands for 25 mil plus Gallagher alone .. adding in broja? Yes please .. take it and run

Without question. He is currently raw and developing. He could become a £60m player but he could equally be anything below. The deal, if real, is massively loaded in our favour.

 

[PJ87]

Without question. He is currently raw and developing. He could become a £60m player but he could equally be anything below. The deal, if real, is massively loaded in our favour.

I'd be saying thanks we will take you up on that deal no takebacks ...

Gallagher is class and proved it last season for palace

Broja is raw and developing but considering your striking options he would be ideal

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'd be saying thanks we will take you up on that deal no takebacks ...

Gallagher is class and proved it last season for palace

Broja is raw and developing but considering your striking options he would be ideal

Totally agree ?.

Let's hope this all develops tomorrow ?

 

[fundy]

another 5m on Gordons price

 

[Lord Tyrion]

another 5m on Gordons price

If the score stays the same at St Mary's then they may be willing to go up even higher ?

 

[Aztecs27]

I'm not disagreeing. However, having read a few other sources it seems that his "outspokenness" is not isolated to just that 9-0 defeat and he has, supposedly, made other comments about the clubs seeming unwillingness to part with the cash whilst others (Both Fulham and Forrest were compared) are making hay, so to speak.

Forest’s owner has re-invested every single penny of their promotion payment back into the club for this transfer window, in order for them to build a team that can compete.

Bournemouth is, and will always be, a tinpot club, as evidenced.

I don’t like Scott Parker but he’s been dealt a harsh hand here