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[Deleted member 35927]

So we should ignore China?

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Global Carbon Emissions: Country-by-Country for 2023 - Sigma Earth

In 2023, the tale of global carbon emissions is a mosaic of national pledges, industrial legacies, and emerging challenges, with global carbon emissions acting as a crucial barometer.

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The UK produce 0.8% of the world CO emissions.

List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions - Wikipedia

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The point made was India and China are doing very little wr net zero. Which we know is not true. No one has suggested we ignore them.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Any idea when? I'm supposed to be playing golf on Sunday

No idea , my course is closed due to the large amount of rain we seem to get these days.

 

[Fade and Die]

The point made was India and China are doing very little wr net zero. Which we know is not true. No one has suggested we ignore them.

We currently produce 0.8% of the worlds CO emissions, where is the sense in hamstringing our economy to reduce this already very low number? Our competitors are certainly not going to.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

No idea , my course is closed due to the large amount of rain we seem to get these days.

Interesting that the average rainfall in the last 24 years hasn’t changed much

Been some big droughts as well

 

[Deleted member 35927]

We currently produce 0.8% of the worlds CO emissions, where is the sense in hamstringing our economy to reduce this already very low number? Our competitors are certainly not going to.

Didn't need climate change to that did we

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Interesting that the average rainfall in the last 24 years hasn’t changed much

Been some big droughts as well

Is it, how so. An average number has little meaning without context. What's the distribution throughout the year for example how has that changed over the decades? Why 24 years?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Interesting that the average rainfall in the last 24 years hasn’t changed much

Been some big droughts as well

The lack of understanding is staggering considering the amount of reading into things you do.

Floods have increased due to the change in rain patterns. Spain saw the worst floods due to a YEARS worth of rain fell in 8 hours. Process that for a minute. A years worth of rain in 8 hours. A year. Not a days worth. Not A month's worth.. a years worth.

Rainfall may not have once and droughts happen .. but instead of having stable rainfall that we can deal with and is important to how we live we have extremes. Extreme downpours and extreme shortages.

Sure it "levels out" over the year but doesn't make it less dangerous.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The lack of understanding is staggering considering the amount of reading into things you do.

Floods have increased due to the change in rain patterns. Spain saw the worst floods due to a YEARS worth of rain fell in 8 hours. Process that for a minute. A years worth of rain in 8 hours. A year. Not a days worth. Not A month's worth.. a years worth.

Rainfall may not have once and droughts happen .. but instead of having stable rainfall that we can deal with and is important to how we live we have extremes. Extreme downpours and extreme shortages.

Sure it "levels out" over the year but doesn't make it less dangerous.

All of which have happened before - floods , droughts, it’s not new


It will happen again regardless of any net zero targets


Go back through history and find a time when we didn’t have changeable weather conditions - even before emissions pouring into the sky

 

[Deleted member 21784]

All of which have happened before - floods , droughts, it’s not new


It will happen again regardless of any net zero targets


Go back through history and find a time when we didn’t have changeable weather conditions - even before emissions pouring into the sky

Nothing happened on the levels we are seeing now. Not as frequent.

This is becoming a yearly occurrence.

It used to be once in a decade now it's every year

Denying that is pretty darn stupid

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Nothing happened on the levels we are seeing now. Not as frequent.

This is becoming a yearly occurrence.

It used to be once in a decade now it's every year

Denying that is pretty darn stupid

I'm amazed that in this day and age there are still climate change deniers. Staggering tbh.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I'm amazed that in this day and age there are still climate change deniers. Staggering tbh.

To be fair there as still people who think the earth is flat and that COVID was a conspiracy so their are a level above those knuckle draggers

 

[Deleted member 35927]

All of which have happened before - floods , droughts, it’s not new


It will happen again regardless of any net zero targets


Go back through history and find a time when we didn’t have changeable weather conditions - even before emissions pouring into the sky

You appear to be confusing weather and climate. They're not the same things you know.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I'm amazed that in this day and age there are still climate change deniers. Staggering tbh.

No one is denying the climate is changing and it’s been caused by human beings

 

[Arthur Wedge]

To be fair there as still people who think the earth is flat and that COVID was a conspiracy so their are a level above those knuckle draggers

Stop making silly statements - the Luton one was bad enough

 

[Fade and Die]

Didn't need climate change to that did we

So just a daft reply then Pete to what was a genuine question?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

So just a daft reply then Pete to what was a genuine question?

It's worrying that people would rather lose 25% of livable space In the world than 25% of their wealth.

Ironically those most vocal blame all their issues on immigration, just wait to see how many climate refugees will be made by ignoring climate change.

 

[Fade and Die]

It's worrying that people would rather lose 25% of livable space In the world than 25% of their wealth.

Ironically those most vocal blame all their issues on immigration, just wait to see how many climate refugees will be made by ignoring climate change.

Is this reply an attempt to answer the question I asked Pete?

We currently produce 0.8% of the worlds CO emissions, where is the sense in hamstringing our economy to reduce this already very low number? Our competitors are certainly not going to

If it is I’m afraid I do not understand what you mean.

 

[jim8flog]

What is the cost if we don’t

All the little boys will be sent down the pits again to push the coal trucks.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Is this reply an attempt to answer the question I asked Pete?

We currently produce 0.8% of the worlds CO emissions, where is the sense in hamstringing our economy to reduce this already very low number? Our competitors are certainly not going to

If it is I’m afraid I do not understand what you mean.

Why does it have to cripple the economy? Sorry thats just daily mail hyperbole, there is plenty of money to be made out of investing toward lessening the impact of climate change.
Sadly many like to stick with what they know , with EVs being a Great example, with many preferring to believe rubbish about them as opposed to seriously look at getting one.

 

[Fade and Die]

Why does it have to cripple the economy? Sorry thats just daily mail hyperbole, there is plenty of money to be made out of investing toward lessening the impact of climate change.
Sadly many like to stick with what they know , with EVs being a Great example, with many preferring to believe rubbish about them as opposed to seriously look at getting one.

The world economic forum reckons otherwise…

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2022/01/net-zero-cost-3-5-trillion-a-year/

Or are they “far right” too?

You are right, there needs to be change, EVs and making our society greener must be our aim but it has to be done thoughtfully and at a slower pace, as per the news article earlier, rash decisions even for the right reasons are not good for our economy.

Well done btw for getting the phrase “Daily Mail hyperbole” into your post… It’s great fun playing “Liberal left bingo”