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But again, why did the rule originally come about? What was the reason?
Who knows and does it matter ? It’s a rule that some clubs have , you have a choice - don’t play at the club with that rule or if you are a member challenge it through the correct channels.
 

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:eek: It's almost the end of October and in a few weeks we will be playing winter rules and winter league yet we are discussing shorts and what colour of socks to wear! Perhaps we should be asking what colour of wellies are acceptable for this time of the year! ;)
 

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Who knows and does it matter ? It’s a rule that some clubs have , you have a choice - don’t play at the club with that rule or if you are a member challenge it through the correct channels.
Does it matter? That’s a strange way to look at anything in life.

Does it matter that France won the World Cup? Does it matter that the sky is blue? There are a million things in life that don’t really matter, and yet we are all within our rights to ask why.

A few people on here including myself have asked why this sock rule is in place, and the few responses received appear to be like yours. Totally dismissive of the question posed, and not realising the irony in saying ‘why does it matter’ when the question in indeed ‘why does the colour of someone’s socks matter?’

If you don’t know, you don’t know. No one else on here appears to either :D But to throw little digs at anyone who dares to ask why a rule is in place, seems defensive to me.
 
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Does it matter? That’s a strange way to look at anything in life.

Does it matter that France won the World Cup? Does it matter that the sky is blue? There are a million things in life that don’t really matter, and yet we are all within our rights to ask why.

A few people on here including myself have asked why this sock rule is in place, and the few responses received appear to be like yours. Totally dismissive of the question posed, and not realising the irony in saying ‘why does it matter’ when the question in indeed ‘why does the colour of someone’s socks matter?’

If you don’t know, you don’t know. No one else on here appears to either :D But to throw little digs at anyone who dares to ask why a rule is in place, seems defensive to me.
Blimey a bit over dramatic there aren’t you

I suspect clubs will have different reasons - long standing rules , smartness , tradition etc etc - you can’t have a one reason for why clubs have the dress code they have beyond “it’s what the club and it’s members want “ - it’s their choice and it’s the choice they have made for i suspect a multiple of reasons

I expect you would respond to any reason with a “but why” - the why is “because they want too “

Question all you want but don’t through the strops when you don’t get a reason why

At the end of the day you have a choice - abide by the dress code whatever it may be or go play elsewhere - not one single one of us is forced into anything
 

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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?

Any dress code of any variety is forcing you into complying.
Yes, you have the choice to play or not but if you choose to play you are being forced into being told what you can wear and what you can't.
And the irony is, as I've stated before, that a combo of flourescent pink shirt, lurid lime green pants and bright blue shoes gets the nod over a pair of black socks...
I just find it totally illogical that people care about what other people wear in the 21st century..
 

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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?

Any dress code of any variety is forcing you into complying.
Yes, you have the choice to play or not but if you choose to play you are being forced into being told what you can wear and what you can't.
And the irony is, as I've stated before, that a combo of flourescent pink shirt, lurid lime green pants and bright blue shoes gets the nod over a pair of black socks...
I just find it totally illogical that people care about what other people wear in the 21st century..

I think there should be a dress code of sorts. Smart casual i guess. Trousers/chinos/shorts
Appropriate top.

I wonder if people would be as be so against the idea of a uniform if suddenly everyone showed up in cargo pants and footy tops?
 
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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?

Any dress code of any variety is forcing you into complying.
Yes, you have the choice to play or not but if you choose to play you are being forced into being told what you can wear and what you can't.
And the irony is, as I've stated before, that a combo of flourescent pink shirt, lurid lime green pants and bright blue shoes gets the nod over a pair of black socks...
I just find it totally illogical that people care about what other people wear in the 21st century..

You aren’t being forced into anything - you have the choice when the options are there for you to find out. If you don’t like the options then don’t play but if you want to then just follow the rules , it’s same with the rules of the game as well as dress code. You have a choice - simple. Once you make the choice you follow the rules - simple

You are playing a sport - I would expect to wear the appropriate sporting clothing as deemed by the establishment you are visiting or a member off - if you don’t agree with what they deemed to be “-appropriate “ then follow the correct procedures to try and get it changed .

But it’s always the same when it comes to dress codes - every sport has one , and people follow them to ensure they abide by the requirements
 

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You aren’t being forced into anything - you have the choice when the options are there for you to find out. If you don’t like the options then don’t play but if you want to then just follow the rules , it’s same with the rules of the game as well as dress code. You have a choice - simple. Once you make the choice you follow the rules - simple

You are playing a sport - I would expect to wear the appropriate sporting clothing as deemed by the establishment you are visiting or a member off - if you don’t agree with what they deemed to be “-appropriate “ then follow the correct procedures to try and get it changed .

But it’s always the same when it comes to dress codes - every sport has one , and people follow them to ensure they abide by the requirements

Just like no one forces you to watch golf on sky,but you do & constantly whinge about it.

Other choices 👍🏻
 

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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?

Any dress code of any variety is forcing you into complying.
Yes, you have the choice to play or not but if you choose to play you are being forced into being told what you can wear and what you can't.
And the irony is, as I've stated before, that a combo of flourescent pink shirt, lurid lime green pants and bright blue shoes gets the nod over a pair of black socks...
I just find it totally illogical that people care about what other people wear in the 21st century..
I'd allow any colour socks, ask for smart casual dress and even allow black jeans as long as they don't have rips in them as they In a lot of cases are smarter than some trousers I see.. Wear whatever trousers and polo shirts you like, whatever socks you want and respect the rules of golf and general etiquette of being a decent human being on the course..

What next banning people with tattoos on display as it doesn't suit the establishment.. if that ever happened I'd be screwed at any golf course 🤣
 

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Ankle socks for summer
Normal for winter

I have the black UA ankle socks for black shoes - nice blend of the colour and not halfway up my calf.

Also, I am far more offended by overweight fat people wearing tight fitting clothing on the course and also the dodgy trouser brigade with the royal and NotAwesome looking monstrosities.
 

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Ankle socks for summer
Normal for winter

I have the black UA ankle socks for black shoes - nice blend of the colour and not halfway up my calf.

Also, I am far more offended by overweight fat people wearing tight fitting clothing on the course and also the dodgy trouser brigade with the royal and NotAwesome looking monstrosities.

Don’t get me started on the loud trouser brigade.
“Look at me everybody I’m mental”

Nah ya just knob in stupid trousers 😀
 
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A simple one line - “appropriate clean golf clothing”


And then look to adapt from there - if people abuse it ( and they do ) you then look to adapt the rules to suit

And it also depends on what you want from the club
 

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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?
Yes. To save you from yourself and to stop you looking like a knob.

(If you wear a livid pink top & luminous lime green shorts you will still look like a knob, but not quite as much one as if you were wearing the black socks)
 

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Blimey a bit over dramatic there aren’t you

I suspect clubs will have different reasons - long standing rules , smartness , tradition etc etc - you can’t have a one reason for why clubs have the dress code they have beyond “it’s what the club and it’s members want “ - it’s their choice and it’s the choice they have made for i suspect a multiple of reasons

I expect you would respond to any reason with a “but why” - the why is “because they want too “

Question all you want but don’t through the strops when you don’t get a reason why

At the end of the day you have a choice - abide by the dress code whatever it may be or go play elsewhere - not one single one of us is forced into anything
I’m not being dramatic at all? Or stroppy. Just responding to your post :)

And I still don’t think you quite get it, which is a bit odd considering you’ve now responded on here multiple times. The question, again, is ‘why is the rule in place? What is the logical or practical reason behind it?’ You’ve mentioned that it is possibly smartness, which is subjective, and then tradition.

99% of the time though, any tradition comes from somewhere. Eg Turkey at Christmas comes from Dickens. So if this sock thing is tradition, why white socks? What’s the deal and who first went about putting the rule in place? If you don’t know then cool. No one else here appears to know either!

And as far as I understand it, the Americans don’t have this sort of stuff in place... do they? So I would wager that it is most likely a British thing.
 
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I’m not being dramatic at all? Or stroppy. Just responding to your post :)

And I still don’t think you quite get it, which is a bit odd considering you’ve now responded on here multiple times. The question, again, is ‘why is the rule in place? What is the logical or practical reason behind it?’ You’ve mentioned that it is possibly smartness, which is subjective, and then tradition.

99% of the time though, any tradition comes from somewhere. Eg Turkey at Christmas comes from Dickens. So if this sock thing is tradition, why white socks? What’s the deal and who first went about putting the rule in place? If you don’t know then cool. No one else here appears to know either!

And as far as I understand it, the Americans don’t have this sort of stuff in place... do they? So I would wager that it is most likely a British thing.

You will not find the answer you want because it has prob got lost over the years , when I first started player you couldn’t wear ankle socks it was calf white socks only with short , before that it was knee length socks - the “logical” whys won’t exist but there doesn’t always have to be a “logical” why - dress codes doesn’t always follow some logical reasons- it’s clothes playing sport - a lot of it is about “perceived” smartness or a long held tradition based on someone in the 1900’s or so believing that black socks looked bad etc etc

But you want to know why the rule is in place still

Answer- because the club and it’s members want it there - no logical reason or practical reason , it’s because of the wishes of the members and the club. That will be your answer to any dress code question - some courses don’t like cargo shorts - why ? Because that’s what the members want their dress code to be - it’s the same with jacket and tie or long socks only or no shorts , collars only - pick any dress code rule and it’s the same. You can continue to ask for a logical/practical reason why but you won’t find one

Life is full of rules etc without logical reasons
 

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I would hazard a guess that, rather than being the wishes of the current members, it's more likely the current membership either haven't tried or can't be bothered to change it.
When people join they get told the rules and simply accept them and the cycle continues until someone decides it's actually a stupid rule and tries to do something about it.
But, as has been seen from clubs voting to not allow female membership, many golf club members seem to be stuck in the 50's so rules don't get changed often.
Personally, I don't care as you'll never see me in shorts on a golf course:p
 

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General question for everyone..
If you we're launching a new golf club today and you had the right to make club rules, would you invoke the " can't wear black socks with shorts" rule..?
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I would invoke the rule, no shorts, so solving the socks problem once and for all. (y)
 
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