Short game, short game & short game.

[Evesdad]

So over the end of the season most of my game has improved and feeling pretty good, even the driver over the last few rounds. So in preparation for next season I really need to sort my short game out, firstly my putting is pretty poor, after that I need to sharpen up 100 yds and in.

So any books/videos/youtubes that anyone can recommend? A lesson is not an option as I've an expensive holiday to pay for next year, so sort of looking to do it on my own steam if you like.

 

[Maninblack4612]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Short-Game-Tour-Tested-14-Jun-2007/dp/B011T79IXM/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1480284438&sr=8-17&keywords="Stan+utley"

 

[Evesdad]

Cheers MiB I'll check it out.

 

[Spear-Chucker]

Luke Donald has some good stuff on YouTube. He presents stuff simply and should give you plenty to go and work on... Bunker lessons are very good. I stop by every so often for a quick 'catchup'

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Chris Ryan has some very good videos on youtube for pitching chipping and bunkers. Of course, you could always look at linear method by Gary Smith. Its really helping my short game especially chipping and bunkers

 

[garyinderry]

Luke Donald has some good stuff on YouTube. He presents stuff simply and should give you plenty to go and work on... Bunker lessons are very good. I stop by every so often for a quick 'catchup'

Yes these are good. Its called the Mizuno masterclass.

 

[garyinderry]

Big Phil's bible

[video=youtube;GhzY7TIMnMU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhzY7TIMnMU[/video]

 

[Spear-Chucker]

Yes these are good. Its called the Mizuno masterclass.

That's the fella's - very good as I remember.

OP, obvious (no offense if you've been there) but also don't forget the 'Tips' section on the GM website as there are lots of excellent short game elements to try out from some very well respected coaches.

 

[ciel-bleu]

Another vote for Big Phil's Secrets of The Short Game. "There's a million ways to putt, there's only one way to chip". It definitely did it for me. Before I watched it I would very rarely get up and down. I was all hands and arms and didn't understand the necessity to turn the body towards the target.
Another plus is that his presentation style is superb, very watchable.

 

[Evesdad]

Cheers guys plenty to have a go at.

 

[Foxholer]

Dave Pelz's Short Game Bible is also good - if a pretty heavy read!

 

[Evesdad]

Cheers foxholer, wasn't sure in the pelz one as had heard it was a heavy read and very technical.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Cheers foxholer, wasn't sure in the pelz one as had heard it was a heavy read and very technical.

It is hard going. Some good stuff in there but a lot to wade through to get to it

 

[Beezerk]

Rather than watch endless videos, get yourself a short game lesson, a good coach will put you right.

 

[Evesdad]

As much as I'd love to see someone and get it sorted I just can't stretch to it at the moment. Which is why I've asked on here to save looking through hours of videos etc. And instead asking what has worked for others. I've watched through the phil video which is quite interesting.

 

[garyinderry]

I'd give the pelz bible a miss for the time being. nail down a few of the techniques from videos. practice an hour here and there around the short game area. Take it to the course for a few practice holes dropping multiple balls around the green.

Trust your work when playing proper rounds.

 

[huds1475]

Thanks for the Mickleson videos Gary. Going through try using them over the winter.

 

[Foxholer]

Cheers foxholer, wasn't sure in the pelz one as had heard it was a heavy read and very technical.

There's about 30-40 pages of really good stuff, preceded by about the same amount of preamble about how he came to figure the system out - attempting to convince you that the method is worthwhile!

If you have a decent amount of time to 'groove' his 3 'clock' swings - I found I was too inconsistent with the 7:30 - then it might be good for Pitching from the yardages you establish. But Chipping is a whole different skill imo!

And remember that Yanks often say/mean Pitch for what Brits often call/mean Chip!

In reality, simply practicing (both!) and finding out what works best for you is likely to be of most benefit! It's the part of my game that I regret not being able to work on - as lack of competence costs me several (half a dozen even!) shots a round! Last round, I got up and down more often from (frozen) bunkers than by chipping!

 

[Region3]

If you have a decent amount of time to 'groove' his 3 'clock' swings - I found I was too inconsistent with the 7:30 - then it might be good for Pitching from the yardages you establish.

Not that I've read the book but I've put some work in on having set lengths for the backswing, and for arms to 7:30 it feels like it's nowhere near far enough to hit a ball.

Strangely though, if I think "club parallel to the ground" it feels much better even though my arms are still only around 7:30

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I struggle with the 7.30 swing when I tried the Pelz method. I didn't trust it to do the job and also felt it was too short. I'm a rubbish pitcher (well my short game is poor overall) but didn't have any feel for this particular shot with this method