Crazyface
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So we're thicko's then? Tell us the facts and lets us judge. Them that still don't know but care, can ask a mate to explain it. Not telling us the facts harmed the remain arguement.
Second vote ? Why not .?
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So we're thicko's then? Tell us the facts and lets us judge. Them that still don't know but care, can ask a mate to explain it. Not telling us the facts harmed the remain arguement.
Crazyface
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Correct
i was joking of course i don't feel sorry for them
woody69
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The squabbling and obstructions as you call it is because it is their club and we want to leave. For want of a better example it's like you saying you no longer wanted to pay the membership fee to your golf club and then getting the hump when they said you weren't allowed to play in their competitions anymore.
bluewolf
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Not a single person in the Country, or the World is intelligent enough to know exactly what will happen when we leave. Globalised economics is far too complex even for those fully immersed in it. Throw in Trade/Borders/Science/Immigration etc etc and its beyond comprehension.
But yeah, Derek from Sunderland can explain it to his mate Brian. Good one 🤣
woody69
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The vast majority of the population (on both sides) is ignorant yes. You don't have to take it so personally.
ColchesterFC
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Isn't it more like wanting to leave the club and then being banned from paying to play at that club. We don't want to be a member of the club but would be happy to pay to play there. Or if you were happy to be paying 1000's of pounds per year in to the club and pro shop in order to be able to play there after you left but the club decided that they were going to put obstacles in your way to stop you doing it. In much the same way as the EU is trying to put barriers in the way of us being able to spend billions of pounds a year on goods from the EU.
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there is a valid argument that a 16 yo today will be more effected by these decisions than a 70yo .. yet they have no say in the decision.. not saying let them vote but its another example why it cant be left to the general public because most vote on selfish reasons and not for the greater good. I voted remain on the fact I dont want my personal situation to change at all its how I like it., however that might be selfish on other peoples needs.. same for people who voted leave they might be voting because of their own reasons
it should be left to the MPs. thats what they are paid for.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Not really. We don't want anything to do with them.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Almost. It's like leaving the Club then asking for preferential Pay to Play privileges and entry into the Board Comps. We're being knocked back and wil most likely have to pay the full whack to play and no Comps.
This analogy lark could run all day.
bluewolf
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Oh FFS. We still want to trade with them. Please tell me you don't think we won't be dealing with them at all!!!!!!
apart from SILH who knows it will be a complete disaster and the World will stop spinning the second we leave
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I think thats one of the biggest misconceptions of all.....that leavers somehow wanted no trading, no immigration and to be a great big Island full of racists. Whereas it was just about making our own decisions, our own deals and having more control over who comes in.
A mate of mine works in the construction industry and he hires workers for his sites....he has said many a time that he'd rather employ people from Poland/Romania etc as they work harder than the English workers who are far more "entitled".
It's about control.
USER1999
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I noticed that before posting, and left it in anyway!
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Only if we want to completely tank the economy
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1. We had a vote - the country democratically voted to leave.
2. The people shouting loudest for a second vote are the ones who lost. Who would sure as hell not be doing that if they had won.
3. No-one could have foreseen the complications over leaving Europe. Now we have to rely on the elected politicians, too many of whom are doing what they want and not what the country wanted.
4. The EU are going to do everything they can to screw Britain over leaving to try to stop anyone else doing the same.
2. The people shouting loudest for a second vote are the ones who lost. Who would sure as hell not be doing that if they had won.
3. No-one could have foreseen the complications over leaving Europe. Now we have to rely on the elected politicians, too many of whom are doing what they want and not what the country wanted.
4. The EU are going to do everything they can to screw Britain over leaving to try to stop anyone else doing the same.
woody69
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And ironically one of the other biggest misconceptions is we do make our own decisions, have a say in all deals and maintain control over who comes in. Funny old world isn't it.
The vast majority of MP's are totally clueless. Their only job in parliament, which many of them don't even do, is to turn up and vote. And then they vote according to how the Whip tells them to. A nodding donkey could do that job.
The best of them become cabinet minister and then, bizarrely, get shifted from, e.g. Health to Foreign Office. Yeah, of course they are experts overnight - double lol with a lol on the side to go.
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woody69
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I never claimed they are experts, but they are certainly more informed than average joe and their job is to research and listen to actual experts who do understand all the nuances to come to a collective decision. I am not disagreeing that there are quite a few idiots in parliament, like there are in any organisation.
