Scottish v English football

[chris661]

Do you know LiverpooloPhil thinks it is a meaningless friendly

Give it a resat mate there is no need to keep going on and on and on and on repeating the same thing we get it.

 

[Dodger]

Can'y believe some are trying to use a friendly win for a bit of point scoring.

Meaningless result.Totally meaningless.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you know LiverpooloPhil thinks it is a meaningless friendly

Give it a resat mate there is no need to keep going on and on and on and on repeating the same thing we get it.

Not everyone :thup:

 

[chris661]

Can'y believe some are trying to use a friendly win for a bit of point scoring.

Meaningless result.Totally meaningless.

No it isn't. It means Dundee are the best team in the England :rofl:

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Please don't be disingenuous as you know fine well that it is not meaningless in the minds of supporters and the teams and managers 

Do you seriously believe Man City's supporters give a toss about a training exercise?

If you do then I think you must accept that you are the one who is being disingenuous.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Do you seriously believe Man City's supporters give a toss about a training exercise?

Probably not - I wasn't talking about the MCFC v Scumdee match - I was talking about the Scotland vs England friendly in November. A training exercise you think.

For a supporter of a Scottish club any match against potentially far superior opposition is not meaningless - it helps likes of Dundee assess where they are themselves. If MCFC did it for a bit of fun then that's up to them.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

No it isn't. It means Dundee are the best team in the England :rofl:

...and since they are only the third best team on Tayside...

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Probably not - I wasn't talking about the MCFC v Scumdee match - I was talking about the Scotland vs England friendly in November. A training exercise you think.

For a supporter of a Scottish club any match against potentially far superior opposition is not meaningless - it helps likes of Dundee assess where they are themselves. If MCFC did it for a bit of fun then that's up to them.

Any friendly is essentially a training exercise, otherwise strongest sides would always be picked and six or seven substitutions would not be made.

Certainly the new World Champions have a history of not being greatly bothered by the results of friendly games, seeing them as a means of looking at fringe players and introducing them to the manager's methods.

For England a friendly against Scotland is of no more importance than a friendly against, say, Norway.

It should be viewed only as an opportunity for players to develop in readiness for qualification games for the next European Championship.

Sadly the days of regular competitive football between the Home Nations have long since gone

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Any friendly is essentially a training exercise, otherwise strongest sides would always be picked and six or seven substitutions would not be made.

Certainly the new World Champions have a history of not being greatly bothered by the results of friendly games, seeing them as a means of looking at fringe players and introducing them to the manager's methods.

For England a friendly against Scotland is of no more importance than a friendly against, say, Norway.

It should be viewed only as an opportunity for players to develop in readiness for qualification games for the next European Championship.

Sadly the days of regular competitive football between the Home Nations have long since gone

Well I hope that your boys are ready and prepared for a friendly 'after you' jog in the park with the Scottish lads.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Well I hope that your boys are ready and prepared for a friendly 'after you' jog in the park with the Scottish lads.

Well if spirit and being fired up for matches was of any great importance then Brazil would have won the World Cup at a canter.

Speaking only for myself I will give the forthcoming game the same amount of attention I would any other friendly i.e. very little. Rarely bother watching non-competitive games at either club or national level, they are just an opportunity to part fans from their cash and do nothing for me.

Good luck to you though as the match is clearly important to you. Before you ask I am not getting excuses in beforehand as I am sure that over the intervening and following weeks there will be a number of threads on the subject but rest assured I will not be involved, really not interested.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Ok - fair enough - in a thread titled Scottish vs English football there are some contributors to the thread who don't give a jot about the outcome of a Scotland vs England football match. Which is interesting as the times are rare when any team representing Scottish football actually plays a team representing English football - so we have some evidence rather than the 100% conjecture we have the rest of the time. But it's a friendly so irrelevant.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Ok - fair enough - in a thread titled Scottish vs English football there are some contributors to the thread who don't give a jot about the outcome of a Scotland vs England football match. Which is interesting as the times are rare when any team representing Scottish football actually plays a team representing English football - so we have some evidence rather than the 100% conjecture we have the rest of the time. But it's a friendly so irrelevant.

Oh dear Hogan, that's poked the wasps nest.

So what you are saying is that if Scotland win 2-0 we will get exactly the same replies from south of the border as when Dundee beat The EPL Champions by the same score.

Aye right!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Oh dear Hogan, that's poked the wasps nest.

So what you are saying is that if Scotland win 2-0 we will get exactly the same replies from south of the border as when Dundee beat The EPL Champions by the same score.

Aye right!

Can only speak for myself.

See Post #410, I would not envisage even watching the game. It is an irrelevance.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I wonder what the odds are on Hodgson being sacked if Scotland win.

Only a friendly!

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I wonder what the odds are on Hodgson being sacked if Scotland win.

Only a friendly!

Does it lead to qualification for the Euros or World Cup?

No, therefore, it is a meaningless irrelevance.

Do you actually watch matches that have nothing but so called "bragging rights" at stake. How strange!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Isn't that not a bit like saying you could not care less about winning the bounce game against your friends as you are only interested in winning the club championship.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Isn't that not a bit like saying you could not care less about winning the bounce game against your friends as you are only interested in winning the club championship.

Are you serious?

Of course I would care, there's money on it!

Re: the football I am genuinely not being obtuse. I honestly could not tell you the last time I watched a friendly on TV and I most definitely would not go and watch it live.

Friendlies are merely training exercises for me and would be best played behind closed doors.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

We tend to treat friendlies against English side a bit differently, a lot more passion in the game.
Only chance we can pit our skills against the best players in the world.

Hearts v Barcelona a few years ago saw nearly 60,000 turn up at Murrayfield to watch a pre season warm up.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We tend to treat friendlies against English side a bit differently, a lot more passion in the game.
Only chance we can pit our skills against the best players in the world.

Hearts v Barcelona a few years ago saw nearly 60,000 turn up at Murrayfield to watch a pre season warm up.

They turned up to watch Barcelona the best club side in the world . But its still a meaningless friendly

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

They turned up to watch Barcelona the best club side in the world . But its still a meaningless friendly

I'm wondering whether England friendlies being so meaningless is a view held by supporters of clubs outside of the EPL