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Not an unpredicatble post given where your loyalties lie.......

1) I think Motherwell and Aberdeen fans would argue the race for 2nd place was worth playing for
2) You may take getting pumped out of Europe for granted (well perhaps not these days...) but for fans of other clubs who don't get the opporunity to follow their team to the likes of Turkey and Norway as St Johnstone fans have done in the last 2 seasons it has been a fantastic experience for them
3) Hibs along with Hearts may still get relegated - I'm sure you predicted that at the start of this season

I would love to see Rangers and Celtic leave and go to England a la Swansea and Cardiff for many reasons. Don't try and tell me it would be "Armageddon" if this happended - SPFL doesn't have a sponsor at the moment so wouldn't be much change there and 3 or 4 visits of 5000 Old Firm fans per season would be outweighed by the additional fans who would be back every week to see their teams who would then have an opportunity to win the league.

It may come as a surprise to you but I did predict those two would go down, well, in truth it was two of three I predicted, Killie being the other, so I wasn't far off the mark.

I've never predicted Armageddon for Scottish Football, but I take your point that some folks did.

I never took getting pumped out of Europe for granted, I hated it when it happened but enjoyed the most recent final we got to and a few decent runs as well.

Playing for 2nd place is a joke! If you're not in the comp to win it.... well.....

I'm not sure Scottish football would benefit from Rangers n Celtic being elsewhere. It might but I don't believe there would be as big an upturn in new supporters as you possibly do.

None of this addresses the fact it's a piss poor product or how it could be improved though. Taking away your 2 biggest, nay, ONLY assets certainly isn't the long term answer though!
 

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Are Sevco deed again yet?

My jelly and ice cream is awaiting this joyous day.It was fun the last time around but this would bring the house down if it were to happen again.

Well done to St Johnstone.Beating a team that the writers up here were falling over themselves to big up around Christmas.

Mind you those same scribes told us that the world would end when Sevco died.
 

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Off to Hamilton tonight to watch the 1st leg and cautiously confident, Thomson is back and Robertson has another game under his belt.Scotland isn't the player he was and Curier was poor at Hibs, as was Canning.Might be a draw tonight with a result at ER on Sunday.

And lets face it, if we can't beat Hamilton over 180 minutes, we get what we deserve.

And congrats to St.Johnstone...never really cared who won at the weekend, as they're two of the few teams in Scotland I feel indifferent towards (As opposed to raging hatred) Was good to see SPoony play well and lift the cup, after years of being treated like crap at Hibs, was delighted for him.

Stevie May,though, get a haircut lad.
 

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Good luck on the synthetic pitch!
Hope you stay up, that's tough for a Jambo to stay.

I like Terry Butcher and I think he is a good long term manager.

They've been training at Spartans all week on their synth pitch...even though we have our own at Ormiston.Dunno the reasons.

I too used to think Butcher was a good long term appointment, but doubts have crept in over the last month or so.
 

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Good luck on the synthetic pitch!
Hope you stay up, that's tough for a Jambo to stay.

I like Terry Butcher and I think he is a good long term manager.

Not sure this Jambo would agree, I think it would be a great contest for tier 2 to have Hearts, Hibs, Falkirk, New Rangers, Raith etc Shame Dunfermline couldn't make the Party (see what I did there)

Anyway I think Hamilton by finishing 2nd and then winning the championship playoff have already earned a spot in SPL for next season



Oh and Phil the SPL has been a one horse race with the winners known before a ball is kicked for decades. To most (out with old firm fans) Celtic and the old Rangers were/are one in the same and one entity, the league would be won by the old firm, the big difference now is they don't take up two spots in the league table to do it and a 2nd team can be runners up
(I hear being runners up in the league is still seen as having a very good season!)
 
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They've been training at Spartans all week on their synth pitch...even though we have our own at Ormiston.Dunno the reasons.

I too used to think Butcher was a good long term appointment, but doubts have crept in over the last month or so.

Different material I understand & the Spartans pitch matches Hamilton's
 

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Who are "carpet baggers" ?!

You will have to stick with the young Scottish lads - because the top players won't want to play in such a non competitive league and teams that don't compete on foreign soil.

Carpet Baggers were 1920's 'snake oil ' salesmen who carried their goods in a bag made of carpet.
They sold their dodgy goods in one town one day and them moved on to the next town before they were seen as con men.

Re. last para.
I am more than content with that.
I think many Scots fans excepting the former Ugly Sisters would be to.
 

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Not an unpredicatble post given where your loyalties lie.......

2) You may take getting pumped out of Europe for granted (well perhaps not these days...) but for fans of other clubs who don't get the opporunity to follow their team to the likes of Turkey and Norway as St Johnstone fans have done in the last 2 seasons it has been a fantastic experience for them

And what is nice about this is that the supporters of St Johnstone and the Turkish club Eskisehirspor now have a good and friendly relationship - link below to the Eskisehirspor club website and if you look you'll see they have our victory on their home page and in the news ticker. That's why playing in Europe matters to a club like St Johnstone. Friendship and ambassadors for Scotland.

http://www.eskisehirspor.org/
 

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Off to Hamilton tonight to watch the 1st leg and cautiously confident, Thomson is back and Robertson has another game under his belt.Scotland isn't the player he was and Curier was poor at Hibs, as was Canning.Might be a draw tonight with a result at ER on Sunday.

And lets face it, if we can't beat Hamilton over 180 minutes, we get what we deserve.

And congrats to St.Johnstone...never really cared who won at the weekend, as they're two of the few teams in Scotland I feel indifferent towards (As opposed to raging hatred) Was good to see SPoony play well and lift the cup, after years of being treated like crap at Hibs, was delighted for him.

Stevie May,though, get a haircut lad.

Good luck against Accies tonight - I'm pretty sure you won't suffer the fate of Morton of a few weeks ago. As much as I'd like Hibees to be causing Rangers a bit of heartache in the Championship next season - I actually don't think it would be great losing you.

And he had his hair cut a week or two back - it was longer :)
 
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