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It is - absolutely is.

And for those who (rightly much of the time) scoff at the quality Scottish football - have a watch of the 5 mins clip and tell me it's dull and rubbish. Maybe not EPL or Champions League standard but not as dreadful as some on here would make out.

I would think 5 mins taken from any EPL game would be better, lets be honest. Even the 5 mins has a player not knowing where ball was, a shanked shot from 7 yds, poor headers and toe pokes.
 
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I would think 5 mins taken from any EPL game would be better, lets be honest. Even the 5 mins has a player not knowing where ball was, a shanked shot from 7 yds, poor headers and toe pokes.

I'm not saying it wouldn't. But I watched the whole game and it was pretty good and reasonable quality of football played. By the way if you watch you'll see that the Aberdeen forward 'shanked' his shot as a St Johnstone defender threw himself in to block - in fact what you don't see is the fact that the Aberdeen players shot was deflected by the defender - so making it appear 'worse' than it actually was. And what is wrong with a 'toe-poke' when it is the correct shot to play - actually it was the top of his boot rather than toe.

No matter - I suspect if a player had done what Kompany did leading up to Liverpool's third goal you'd be using that as evidence of the pathetic nature of Scottish football in general. Actually Kompany being sold the dummy for their first was clearly also evidence that EPL defending is the pits.
 

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No matter - I suspect if a player had done what Kompany did leading up to Liverpool's third goal you'd be using that as evidence of the pathetic nature of Scottish football in general. Actually Kompany being sold the dummy for their first was clearly also evidence that EPL defending is the pits.

I don't think Kompany would be proud of that moment and maybe not the dummy either, but i'm more inclined to think the first goal and others like it are as a result of greater skill by attackers, even against better, more organised defences. That's the sort of thing I prefer about EPL that rarely happens in SPL. What I saw of the 2nd SF was more typical of SPL - though even that was a level above imo. No difference in the determination/passion/competitiveness; just a different quality of player/style of play.
 

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I don't think Kompany would be proud of that moment and maybe not the dummy either, but i'm more inclined to think the first goal and others like it are as a result of greater skill by attackers, even against better, more organised defences. That's the sort of thing I prefer about EPL that rarely happens in SPL. What I saw of the 2nd SF was more typical of SPL - though even that was a level above imo. No difference in the determination/passion/competitiveness; just a different quality of player/style of play.

I am not comparing the Semi-Final with ANY other league in England. I was simply saying that the standard of the game and of the football was pretty good and that it wasn't of the level of incompetency that many ascribe to the game in Scotland.
 

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Hogan you are wasting your time, Sky has brainwashed the lot of them [well most of them]

No Scotsman on here is comparing Scotland to England.
What most are saying is that the gap in quality is not as big as many EPL supporters believe.

I give you Gary Caldwell, Shagger the Goalie and the Norwich right back to support my claim.
 

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Hogan you are wasting your time, Sky has brainwashed the lot of them [well most of them]

No Scotsman on here is comparing Scotland to England.
What most are saying is that the gap in quality is not as big as many EPL supporters believe.


I give you Gary Caldwell, Shagger the Goalie and the Norwich right back to support my claim.

I'm not an EPL supporter and that's not what I was saying- the gap is huge, just enormous. There are many reasons but that's irrelevant, the fact is all that was being discussed.
 

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I'm not an EPL supporter and that's not what I was saying- the gap is huge, just enormous. There are many reasons but that's irrelevant, the fact is all that was being discussed.

OK - but maybe the gap is just as enormous with, for instance, the Norwegian league - after all St Johnstone beat Rosenberg at the start of the season in the Europa League - Saints are 6th in the SPL, Rosenberg BK are 5th in the Norwegian League.

The EPL is a frankenstein's monster of a league nonpareil and beyond comparison as it is beyond a joke in some of it's ways.

And please @CMAC - in my posting I was simply saying that Sundays Scottish Cup Semi-Final was pretty darned good - if you gave it a chance. It was competitive and enjoyable - and a lot of the football was neat and skillful. All three goals were excellent IMO, and in no way were due to defensive howlers.
 

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I notice also that no one has come out in support of the 3 EPL players I have named.
Given half a chance I could come out with a few more.

Everton's good position in the league is helped by the performance of it's Scots players [who are not first team picks for the national side.]
 

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We're getting there Doon - up to 22 in the World Rankings. Fair bit of positivity being expressed towards wee Gordie and the team on the Tartan Army Boards.
 
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Hogan you are wasting your time, Sky has brainwashed the lot of them [well most of them]

No Scotsman on here is comparing Scotland to England.
What most are saying is that the gap in quality is not as big as many EPL supporters believe.

I give you Gary Caldwell, Shagger the Goalie and the Norwich right back to support my claim.

Gary Caldwell plays in the Championship


The gap between league is big enough to state with a lot of confidence that only one team would survive in the prem.

Naming a couple of Scottish players in the prem ( or championship ) doesn't change that
 

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OK - but maybe the gap is just as enormous with, for instance, the Norwegian league -

And please @CMAC - in my posting I was simply saying that Sundays Scottish Cup Semi-Final was pretty darned good - if you gave it a chance. It was competitive and enjoyable - and a lot of the football was neat and skillful. All three goals were excellent IMO, and in no way were due to defensive howlers.

The gap might be but I don't live there so its not relevant to the OP.


I have no doubt the semi final was good and there was some decent skill on show, relative to their standing. The OP was a general comment as I see it from an entertainment point of view, one was a level I can see at the local parks on a Sunday, one was highly entertaining. That's all.
 

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The gap might be but I don't live there so its not relevant to the OP.


I have no doubt the semi final was good and there was some decent skill on show, relative to their standing. The OP was a general comment as I see it from an entertainment point of view, one was a level I can see at the local parks on a Sunday, one was highly entertaining. That's all.

Sorry I don't find tippy tappy football entertaining, sleep inducing maybe.
 
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Only this year.

Wigan was it not. FA cup etc, semi's this year.

I suppose that does not count

He would struggle to get into The Rangers team.

And ? Does one player point to the gap being smaller ?

How many teams from Scotland do you believe would survive in the prem and which teams ?
 

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Can I just ask a serious question to the Scottish guys? Does as much diving & cheating go on in the SPL as in the EPL? It was embarrassing watching some of the blatant cheating yesterday in the EPL.
 
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Diving been happening in the EPL for many years - not just yesterday
 
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Only one team in Scotland would survive in the EPL at the moment. The rest wouldn't cos they are, well, not very good tbh.
 
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