Orikoru
Tour Winner
Two years is a long time I guess, but you'd expect McIlroy, Fleetwood, Hatton, Rahm, Aberg, and Hovland to be involved again I should think, so that's half a team. Possibly Fitzpatrick too. Rose will surely decline eventually.
Ryder Cup 2025 - All matters
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Burnsey
Well-known member
I watched his YouTube channel and thought he was ok, but after the Ryder Cup, I unsubscribed - not a nice fella.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I had a look at the Rose/caddy thing but cant really hear what’s going on. This is my own take :
Caddy made a bit of an etiquette faux pas stepping in at wrong time, Rose, a tad bluntly, puts him in his place, Bryson says something like "don’t talk to my caddy like that, if you have issue with him then talk to me" and then follows back/forth about keep your caddy under control then blah blah blah
Exactly what happens when one partner in a couple makes an error and a 3rd person gives them a blunt telling off for it. The ‘husband/bf’ gets involved to ‘defend’ them. You'll see it every weekend the world over
Caddy made a bit of an etiquette faux pas stepping in at wrong time, Rose, a tad bluntly, puts him in his place, Bryson says something like "don’t talk to my caddy like that, if you have issue with him then talk to me" and then follows back/forth about keep your caddy under control then blah blah blah
Exactly what happens when one partner in a couple makes an error and a 3rd person gives them a blunt telling off for it. The ‘husband/bf’ gets involved to ‘defend’ them. You'll see it every weekend the world over
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Imo a lot of that is to ensure they get followers - plenty of times with have seen the mask slip a little but that’s the same with many , someone will always be nice in you tube videos etc
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
The issue for me is that after Rose did the putt etc he spoke to BDC caddy and it seemed like they all sorted it out and they were joking together- it then re escalated when BDC got heated and Scottie’s caddy pushed Molinari away
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Yup, after the initial mess up things just escalated/expanded and ppl not even involved stick their oar in too, same as at many nights out
One of the poorer aspects of human nature,
timd77
Assistant Pro
Some people have said Rosey was a bit blunt/rude, and although in hindsight I get that, I think that in the heat of the situation it was fine.
Don’t forget, the Europeans had endured 2 days of fan abuse and so were in fight or flight mode. Plus, that caddy on the green with McIlroy in Rome last year and all the shenanigans that occurred as a result of that, it wouldn’t have been beyond the realms of possibility that there was some gamesmanship going on.
But as others have said, it was the afters from dechumpoo and Scott that went beyond the line.
Don’t forget, the Europeans had endured 2 days of fan abuse and so were in fight or flight mode. Plus, that caddy on the green with McIlroy in Rome last year and all the shenanigans that occurred as a result of that, it wouldn’t have been beyond the realms of possibility that there was some gamesmanship going on.
But as others have said, it was the afters from dechumpoo and Scott that went beyond the line.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Just re watched the Rose drop incident with Bradley
It was amusing when Bradley thought he gained the upper hand with the ruling and was waving to the crowd fist pumping and cheering
Then Rose stuck it to a couple feet , Rose just smiled at him and Bradley went mental at the ref
It was amusing when Bradley thought he gained the upper hand with the ruling and was waving to the crowd fist pumping and cheering
Then Rose stuck it to a couple feet , Rose just smiled at him and Bradley went mental at the ref
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Yeah I thought that too, maybe the caddy knew exactly what they were doing and any little niggle he could instigate to unsettle might help his player (& so fully deserving of Rose's wrath)
Depreston
Club Champion
Yeah and for him and Scottie to skip media after that was exceptionally poor
Almost like it hadn’t been put to bed tbh
Rose admitted in interview that he could have been more diplomatic.
SteveW86
Head Pro
Were Netflix there filming for Full Swing?
Should make a good episode
Should make a good episode
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, I imagine he uttered "can you get out of the *** way" or words to that effect. But the fact remains, the caddie didn't really start any confrontation with him, if anything he looked quite apologetic and looked like he was going to cry after all the slanging match had settled down on the next tee. Scottie also wasn't getting involved, the whole flare-up was from Bryson and Ted Scott.
The caddie behaved unprofessionally moving around when Rose was assessing his putt. I don’t doubt it was an accident, or at least I hope it was, and Rose made it clear he could have handled it better, recognising he said too much. The rest was just a storm in a tea cup. The afters was pathetic.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah, I half expected them to start nuzzling each other and then drop to the floor like footballers.
Swango1980
Well-known member
He might have said that, but I would have thought it more likely there was no swearing in his comment, just a strong assertive tone to his voice. He probably also gave him a glare, that spooked the caddie, in that it was defintiely not a friendly request to move. Testosterone fueled Bryson probably just had his emotions run away from him. Sometimes it only takes a sly look at someone to make people like that emotionally unstable. Bryson definitely gets pumped up during the Ryder Cup, so it is probably hard to be the guy to calm things down when there is any sort of needle, but instead more likely be the guy to add fuel to the fire.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Lots of folk these days, throughout society, have an over-inflated sense of the own self-importance - and as a consequence feel that they deserve ‘respect’ at all times…that any even minor ‘slight’ or ‘criticism’ is considered an affront and disrespectful. It is all, or mostly, a load of inflated rubbish. They need to have their self-important balloons punctured in no uncertain terms.
As usual in such matters Burns has it bang on.
Ye see yon birkie ca'd a lord,
Wha struts and stares and a' that;
Tho' hundreds worship at his word,
He's but a coof for a' that:
For a' that, and a' that,
His ribband, star, and a' that,
The man o' independent mind,
He looks and laughs at a' that.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Attempt at damage limitation from the CEO
Ryder Cup: Rory McIlroy abuse "crossed the line" - PGA of America CEO Derek Sprague
There is "no place in golf" for the abuse suffered by Rory McIlroy and Team Europe at the Ryder Cup, says PGA of America CEO Derek Sprague.
www.bbc.co.uk
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Doing a lot of back peddlingAttempt at damage limitation from the CEO
Ryder Cup: Rory McIlroy abuse "crossed the line" - PGA of America CEO Derek Sprague
There is "no place in golf" for the abuse suffered by Rory McIlroy and Team Europe at the Ryder Cup, says PGA of America CEO Derek Sprague.
Think next season we see Rory play the very bare minimum on the PGAT whilst playing more Opens around the European Tour
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