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On a serious note.. is this our ‘last’ Ryder cup? What happens after March next year in case of No deal? Assume we can play 2020 as part of transition..

On a slightly less serious note.. Surely the European PGA wants us as much as the UK&I want to.. plenty of reasons..
1) the game was started here
2) we are probably the biggest market outside the US
3) UK&I have more members in the Ryder Cup almost every year.
4) it won’t be a Ryder Cup without Poults
5) Before the Europeans got involved, it was a comp between US and UK&I .. so we can always take our ball and go backb to original special deal..

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Every Ryder cup there has ever been has been won on the singles :)
Well yeah, as the singles are played on the last day. But if you're not close enough then you're giving yourself a damned hard task.
From what I can see today, certainly this afternoon, is that resurgence of the Europe "Team Spirit" that has allowed them to beat better USA teams (on paper).
The Americans this afternoon looked a bit lost and whether it was the conditions or team empathy they just didn't look in the game today.
I have to say I'm looking forward to Poulter and Rahm being in the same team tomorrow. The passion of them two together will be something else.
Stars of the day though were Fleetwood and Molinari.
 

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The real winner today for me was the course. Bad shots punished, often servely, good shots rewarded, greens tough but not too tricked up. Perfect for matchplay!

I’m not crazy about the course as a golfing experience. Looks brutal for amateurs to play, even with the rough cut back and the tees up a bit. Still water in play on most holes, raised greens, run off areas and plenty of bunkers.

But as a tournament course for the best players in the world it’s great. Places a premium of accuracy, forces you to take on shots you wouldn’t play in stroke play and in my opinion has seriously shown up the Americans who are not used to playing such a stern test. Especially in alternate shot when you are under more pressure and when there was a bit of breeze.

Albeit early days, but even if we lose the morning 3-1 again tomorrow, I think we’ll ride off into the sunset in the foursomes and singles.

See my earlier posts on why I think Europe have such a massive advantage playing in Europe.
 

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Really disappointed not to see noren out there tomorrow morning. He's playing well, he won here this year....
... And I have him as top Euro...

Far better than Casey or Hatton, arguably also better than poults,
 

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Really disappointed not to see noren out there tomorrow morning. He's playing well, he won here this year....
... And I have him as top Euro...

Far better than Casey or Hatton, arguably also better than poults,


Agree, mistake not putting Noren in. In fact would kept Noren and Garcia and Rory with Poulter.
 

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Really disappointed not to see noren out there tomorrow morning. He's playing well, he won here this year....
... And I have him as top Euro...

Far better than Casey or Hatton, arguably also better than poults,

The rookies r good.. fleetwood, Noren and Rahm have stepped up.
Poults-Rors is hit or miss but feed off each other. After the morning session I was wondering if they would have to rest Rory. He can’t putt

Rose-Stenson are the dependable point winners. Felt sorry for Rose in the morning.

Tomorrow is going to be interesting day...
 

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I’m not crazy about the course as a golfing experience. Looks brutal for amateurs to play, even with the rough cut back and the tees up a bit. Still water in play on most holes, raised greens, run off areas and plenty of bunkers.

But as a tournament course for the best players in the world it’s great. Places a premium of accuracy, forces you to take on shots you wouldn’t play in stroke play and in my opinion has seriously shown up the Americans who are not used to playing such a stern test. Especially in alternate shot when you are under more pressure and when there was a bit of breeze.

Albeit early days, but even if we lose the morning 3-1 again tomorrow, I think we’ll ride off into the sunset in the foursomes and singles.

See my earlier posts on why I think Europe have such a massive advantage playing in Europe.

Your original post I challenged was that Americans would struggle to adapt their mindset to a tough course, nothing to do with why they would struggle in Europe. 9 of them have won majors - the toughest of courses. Only 5 Euros have, and our average age and number of majors played is much greater. And the fact is that the average winning score on the European Tour is lower than the PGA. Your post was just full of unsubstantiated claims. The outcome today doesn't suddenly make it correct.

We had a great afternoon today playing little more than OK golf. Furyks decisions were awful. And on the course, it wasn't to do with having a mindset too aggressive, it was the US putting that was atrocious - DJ missed 3 putts inside 4 foot and another from 6, Spieth and Thomas also missed 3 inside 6 foot. Partner that with Phil and Bubba not keeping the ball on the planet and showing they should have been out in the morning (if at all) and it's easy to see how we won 4-0.

Anyway, be great if we could get 2-2 in the morning tomorrow. The US team will have some serious scars in the afternoon and I fancy us to have the same 8 out there come the afternoon (possibly Rahm in for Poults/Sergio depending on the morning)

For the US, I think Phil and Bubba definitely sit for the foursomes, Webb and Bryson deserve another shot. Rickie probably rested too. And then either Woods/Reed.
 

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In the afternoon they certainly had a lot more players playing poorly compared to Europe, players that we knew going in to it weren't playing well, add that to DJ's game folding in the afternoon, and a couple others, they somehow don't seem as strong as they were before the start, but traditionally the US have been strong in singles so we need to get to at least 10 tomorrow to have a chance however, I still have a sneaking suspicion that Rose/Rahm loss today could be the difference come Sunday.
 

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On a serious note.. is this our ‘last’ Ryder cup? What happens after March next year in case of No deal? Assume we can play 2020 as part of transition..

On a slightly less serious note.. Surely the European PGA wants us as much as the UK&I want to.. plenty of reasons..
1) the game was started here
2) we are probably the biggest market outside the US
3) UK&I have more members in the Ryder Cup almost every year.
4) it won’t be a Ryder Cup without Poults
5) Before the Europeans got involved, it was a comp between US and UK&I .. so we can always take our ball and go backb to original special deal..

Simple. It’s the pga tour vs the European tour
Uk and Ireland will ALWAYS be in Europe as we are leaving the EU not changing geography
 

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Love the look of the course and such a change seeing players penalised for bad shots unlike so many courses in the USA where they can drive 50 yards offline and still get a good lie.
 

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How are the pairings arranged?
Does each skipper decide which pair goes out first , second etc independently or are the pairs drawn or do the skippers get together and have a chat about it?
 

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RC stattos:
Have there been situations where on tour a European player has a US caddie or vice versa, and if so have they kept on at the RC or given them the week off?
 
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