Red Tees for juniors

[Old Skier]

So on the chart outside the pro shop, I can look up my playing handicap for each tee. Blue (old white), mens, White (old yellow), mens, Yellow (old red), womens.

So in the interests of inclusively, the colours of the markers have been changed, and the course rated for each tee, for men and women. But, the ladies tees are still officially referred to as the ladies tees on this chart.

Need to be careful as some clubs tees were unfortunately not rated for Male and female use. In those case the red will be only rated for ladies. Need to check with your club.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

It seems like this has been a missed opportunity to ditch the tee colour linked to gender fixation we have here. That's a shame.

 

[chellie]

Need to be careful as some clubs tees were unfortunately not rated for Male and female use. In those case the red will be only rated for ladies. Need to check with your club.

I was told this was because ladies competitions were only going to be played from the red tees.

 

[rulefan]

If you wish to check if a course has any tees which have been rated for one or both genders and check the official name of the tee, look here

https://www.randa.org/worldhandicapsystem/Lookup

You only need to enter the Club name and then check the Course Rating figure(s)

 

[Old Skier]

It seems like this has been a missed opportunity to ditch the tee colour linked to gender fixation we have here. That's a shame.

Where courses have been rated fully the slope charts will only display colours and not gender.

 

[Old Skier]

I was told this was because ladies competitions were only going to be played from the red tees.

If that’s the choice of the club then my feelings are they may come to regret it in the future. I’m sure the older seniors would appreciate being able to play from more forward tees.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Where courses have been rated fully the slope charts will only display colours and not gender.

I've just checked my course on the link posted by rule fan and it states rating:
White -men
Yellow-men
Red-ladies

The posts on this thread suggest they will not be alone.

 

[chellie]

If that’s the choice of the club then my feelings are they may come to regret it in the future. I’m sure the older seniors would appreciate being able to play from more forward tees.

I haven't found one course in our area where the red tees are rated for men and any of the other tees rated for women. Did find one course with no red ratings for women at all.

 

[Old Skier]

I haven't found one course in our area where the red tees are rated for men and any of the other tees rated for women. Did find one course with no red ratings for women at all.

Where there any reds rated for men

 

[chellie]

Where there any reds rated for men

No.

 

[USER1999]

Just checked as above. They have the colours of the tees wrong, as in the old colours, white, yellow, red, but yes, all 3 are rated for men, and reds only for ladies.

 

[rulefan]

So on the chart outside the pro shop, I can look up my playing handicap for each tee.

I think you mean Course Handicap. Playing Handicap depends on the Handicap Allowance for the competition you are playing in. So in individual stroke play you would get 95% of the number on the board.

 

[Colin L]

Where courses have been rated fully the slope charts will only display colours and not gender.

What's a slope chart?

 

[USER1999]

I think you mean Course Handicap. Playing Handicap depends on the Handicap Allowance for the competition you are playing in. So in individual stroke play you would get 95% of the number on the board.

Didn't know that. This just gets weirder. So off the blocks, I am 10.1 index, playing off 12, but in a medal playing off 11. But if I play a random hit and giggle, I am off 12. It's gone from a simple system to something stupidly daft.

 

[Old Skier]

What's a slope chart?

It’s a gurt big thing normally displayed outside the club house or on the first tee.

 

[rulefan]

Didn't know that. This just gets weirder. So off the blocks, I am 10.1 index, playing off 12, but in a medal playing off 11. But if I play a random hit and giggle, I am off 12. It's gone from a simple system to something stupidly daft.

Not quite. If you are playing for handicap purposes (ie general play as per old supplementary scores) your Handicap would be 12.

The Competition Handicap is used for all handicap qualifying scores and is used for handicap adjustment purposes.
The Playing Handicap (ie after any Handicap Allowance has been taken into account) is used only for competition result purposes.

Remember, Handicap Index is course/tee independent and is therefore transportable to anywhere in the world. Any adjustment to it is not dependent on the type of game you are playing.
The Playing Handicap is to counter the bias that has been found in the results of very large statistical analysis into the results of different formats of play.

 

[USER1999]

Not quite. If you are playing for handicap purposes (ie general play as per old supplementary scores) your Handicap would be 12.

The Competition Handicap is used for all handicap qualifying scores and is used for handicap adjustment purposes.
The Playing Handicap (ie after any Handicap Allowance has been taken into account) is used only for competition result purposes.

Remember, Handicap Index is course/tee independent and is therefore transportable to anywhere in the world. Any adjustment to it is not dependent on the type of game you are playing.
The Playing Handicap is to counter the bias that has been found in the results of very large statistical analysis into the results of different formats of play.

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate the effort to explain things to the less well ingormed. I kind of get it, but if the powers that be think this simplifies things, it really doesn't, and it in my view, is an absolute pile of junk.

 

[Colin L]

It’s a gurt big thing normally displayed outside the club house or on the first tee.

Strange name for a chart that charts course handicaps.

 

[rulefan]

Strange name for a chart that charts course handicaps.

England Golf refers to them as 'Slope Rating Boards' and the supplier calls them 'Course Rating and Slope Rating Panels'. Oddly their primary purpose is to provide Course Handicaps. They show both colour and gender separately.

 

[doublebogey7]

Not quite. If you are playing for handicap purposes (ie general play as per old supplementary scores) your Handicap would be 12.

The Competition Handicap is used for all handicap qualifying scores and is used for handicap adjustment purposes.
The Playing Handicap (ie after any Handicap Allowance has been taken into account) is used only for competition result purposes.

Remember, Handicap Index is course/tee independent and is therefore transportable to anywhere in the world. Any adjustment to it is not dependent on the type of game you are playing.
The Playing Handicap is to counter the bias that has been found in the results of very large statistical analysis into the results of different formats of play.

This should read Course Handicap surely.