Rangers in Trouble Again

Doon frae Troon said:
yes and no!

I think the last couple of years has proven that Scotland would do very nicely thank you without the old Old Firm.
I feel genuinely sorry for the genuine Rangers fans and no sympathy at all to those who only support them because of the historical baggage they drag around with them.
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what? mediocre football at shoddy football stadiums at ridiculous prices. If thats doing "very nicely thank you" I'd hate to see 'poor'
 
Doesn't help things when the likes of Graham Wallace could take a 100% bonus on his £ 315.000 salary after running the club into the ground again.
I feel sorry for the supporters who have put money into this shambles. And as for the actual football that's even a bigger shambles.
 
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I can't really have any real input into this living so far away and not being Scottish and so having no affiliation with any club up there but I think the Valentino post is pretty spot on. However as a sports fan in general, derby matches are a mainstay of the fixture list in every footballing country across the world and so the possibility of Rangers going bust and losing one of the most famous rivalries in global football is very sad.

I don't know what the solution to the state of Scottish football is other than looking in as very much an outsider, there seems to be problems of a financial nature throughout the league structure, which has been going on for a few years now and doesn't seem to be resolved fully. Without stability and a competitive top league, money isn't going to be pumped into your football at the same levels forever and investors in TV and advertising want some sort of return. With the money men in clubs still wanting their % all the ingredients are falling in place for a big name to eventually come to the end. I really hope I'm wrong and equally hope it isn't Rangers
 
Dodger said:
Has it not always been that way?

Teams at the top spend the most and pay the most,most of the time since day dot.

Anyways back on topic are they deed yet...again?
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So im guessing you are one of the fans that want them gone

Is it because of the reasons Val has mentioned or is there more
 
Dodger said:
Has it not always been that way?

Teams at the top spend the most and pay the most,most of the time since day dot.

Anyways back on topic are they deed yet...again?
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Not really I remember teams like Aberdeen, Dundee United and Kilmarnock winning the league when Rangers and Celtic were still the big spenders.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Not really I remember teams like Aberdeen, Dundee United and Kilmarnock winning the league when Rangers and Celtic were still the big spenders.
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You are going back 50 years plus for Kilmarnock and 30 years for Dundee Utd and Aberdeen.

And they are odd occasions as opposed to the norm
 
Dodger said:
Has it not always been that way?

Teams at the top spend the most and pay the most,most of the time since day dot.

Anyways back on topic are they deed yet...again?
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Dodger I had hoped marriage would have mellowed you a bit.:cheers: I just read Peter Lawwell's statement " Rangers demise has cost Celtic £10 million PER season" and that's why there is no money in the kitty to but expensive players.

With Hearts and Hibs now out of the SPL it's not looking good. So come on down and join us.:rofl:
 
Valentino said:
I'm sure you've read plenty Celtic forums to see for yourself, you don't need facts and figures to understand the resentment amongst the majority of Celtic fans that Rangers were allowed to be reborn and play in the Scottish leagues.
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You know, much as I dread getting involved in another of these interminable threads, I have never understood this particular gripe.

OK, I do understand it - a large proportion of football fans, especially OF fans, are generally bitter, tribalistic morons who discard all reason in pursuing their irrational hatred of the "other side".
 
FairwayDodger said:
You know, much as I dread getting involved in another of these interminable threads, I have never understood this particular gripe.

OK, I do understand it - a large proportion of football fans, especially OF fans, are generally bitter, tribalistic morons who discard all reason in pursuing their irrational hatred of the "other side".
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Spot on, hence my generalisation earlier in the thread which for some reason Toyboy54 is questioning.

There are Celtic and Rangers fans who take more pleasure in seeing the other losing than their own team winning.
 
Let's keep it civil please, no need for spurious allegations. The thread is progressing nicely and doesn't new to descend into a name calling fest that so many others have.
 
My daughter and 2 of my 4 grand children and most of my mates are Celtic fans , I'm a Rangers fan and my daughters partner is a real blue nose , in fact his surname is Blue. But we manage to have good humoured banter , and never had a fall out.
 
Biggest bugbear for me is what appears to be many Rangers fans going into a referendum for independence with their decisions being made to vote no on the basis of their football team having the colours of the Union Jack and a misguided sense of loyalty to the crown. I don't get the feeling Celtic fans are voting yes by the same reasoning i.e. giving 2 fingers to the UK as some kind of pro Ireland stance.
By all means vote but please base it on political reasoning not football!:mad:
 
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