Random Irritations

[Rooter]

HMRC again; got the letter this morning telling me I haven't paid enough tax. I have two sources of income, both are PAYE taxed at source; if there is a shortfall it is because you haven't taken enough, not because I haven't paid it. And if you can do the calculation now to tell me I haven't paid enough, why can't you do that in the first place and take it from the start of the year. Christ, they're bloody useless.

I'll go out on a limb and say you have earned over X. At that point you need to advise HMRC in advance you will earn over X and they will adjust your tax code. Being heavily bonus based i got whacked with this before. Now i just tell them to keep me on 0 allowances. Its easier.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I'll go out on a limb and say you have earned over X. At that point you need to advise HMRC in advance you will earn over X and they will adjust your tax code. Being heavily bonus based i got whacked with this before. Now i just tell them to keep me on 0 allowances. Its easier.

I think the limb has broken. One source of income is a fixed pension from a former employer; the other source is a fixed salary from my current employer. Neither attract any bonus or incentive payments, the only change is annual increments, other than that they are absolutely flat incomes.

 

[fundy]

I think the limb has broken. One source of income is a fixed pension from a former employer; the other source is a fixed salary from my current employer. Neither attract any bonus or incentive payments, the only change is annual increments, other than that they are absolutely flat incomes.

have you checked the tax code they have allocated you is correct and they dont have something in that that is making the actual tax calc wrong?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

As Fundy alludes to, the tax codes are wrong. As soon as you know what your annual income is going to be, advise HMRC that it needs changing.

https://www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account

 

[Mandofred]

And back to taxes......got off my butt and sent my self assessment in posted 1st class and signed for on 22 Oct.....Royal Mail lost it. They just admit it, the computer shows the post office taking it, and then poof....nothing else. Went to talk to the office I sent it from today, they told me to go to the bigger one in town. The bigger office just asked "Why did they do that?"...."We can't do anything, it should have gone straight to Leeds". Then spent 50 min on hold to the tax folks....only to be routed by the automated robot to the wrong section.....who then transferred me back to the beginning to start all over again (phone call cost £7) so I hung up. So......I'm just starting my taxes again and hoping they take pity on me. I turned in a supplement page section, but for the life of me I can't remember why, although there was only one little box I needed to check off on. Doing taxes for 2 countries each year sucks.
Ahh....figured it out. I need to check 2 boxes on the supplement because I'm using my wife's allowance on taxes. So I run off 4 pages so I can put a check in 2 boxes.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

And back to taxes......got off my butt and sent my self assessment in posted 1st class and signed for on 22 Oct.....Royal Mail lost it. They just admit it, the computer shows the post office taking it, and then poof....nothing else. Went to talk to the office I sent it from today, they told me to go to the bigger one in town. The bigger office just asked "Why did they do that?"...."We can't do anything, it should have gone straight to Leeds". Then spent 50 min on hold to the tax folks....only to be routed by the automated robot to the wrong section.....who then transferred me back to the beginning to start all over again (phone call cost £7) so I hung up. So......I'm just starting my taxes again and hoping they take pity on me. I turned in a supplement page section, but for the life of me I can't remember why, although there was only one little box I needed to check off on. Doing taxes for 2 countries each year sucks.
Ahh....figured it out. I need to check 2 boxes on the supplement because I'm using my wife's allowance on taxes. So I run off 4 pages so I can put a check in 2 boxes.

Could you not do it online? (not meaning to be a smart alec, there may be a reason. It just doesn't get lost then)

My wife had to make a payment to the tax office, it had to be a cheque . She sent it, they cashed it but have not allocated it against her. Trying to speak to a real human about it is nigh on impossible. They are very adept at avoiding people.

 

[fundy]

And back to taxes......got off my butt and sent my self assessment in posted 1st class and signed for on 22 Oct.....Royal Mail lost it. They just admit it, the computer shows the post office taking it, and then poof....nothing else. Went to talk to the office I sent it from today, they told me to go to the bigger one in town. The bigger office just asked "Why did they do that?"...."We can't do anything, it should have gone straight to Leeds". Then spent 50 min on hold to the tax folks....only to be routed by the automated robot to the wrong section.....who then transferred me back to the beginning to start all over again (phone call cost £7) so I hung up. So......I'm just starting my taxes again and hoping they take pity on me. I turned in a supplement page section, but for the life of me I can't remember why, although there was only one little box I needed to check off on. Doing taxes for 2 countries each year sucks.
Ahh....figured it out. I need to check 2 boxes on the supplement because I'm using my wife's allowance on taxes. So I run off 4 pages so I can put a check in 2 boxes.

if you submit it online you get a hard copy automatically and dont have to worry about it getting lost by the postie

 

[Mandofred]

Yeah, but they need certain numbers that I don't have. I have a Nat Insurance "temp" number plus a UTR....the online system didn't like them and wouldn't let me do them online. Taxes here are easier than my US taxes (which aren't that bad really).....I'm just sitting here thinking about having a beer instead, but I should be able to crank out another copy fairly quickly and then type up a note begging for mercy....and sending a copy of my post office receipt along with the form. Going to see if there is a step up from just 1st class and signed for..... I'm tired of sitting on the phone for 45-50 minutes (twice in the last week) and trying to talk to somebody at the tax site..... Jeez I hate robot operators.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Quordle. Mrs BiM and I have a daily challenge. She did hers and sent me the results, one in 6, one in 8 and 2 blowouts. Smelling blood, I dived in and started, getting the first one in 3. “Which one did you get?”, says Management. “Xxxxx” says I. “That’s not anywhere in mine” says she.

Having both completed Quordle 283, we both had completely different sets of words! ?

 

[3offTheTee]

Could you not do it online? (not meaning to be a smart alec, there may be a reason. It just doesn't get lost then)

My wife had to make a payment to the tax office, it had to be a cheque . She sent it, they cashed it but have not allocated it against her. Trying to speak to a real human about it is nigh on impossible. They are very adept at avoiding people.

I had a problem contacting them the other week. I hung up and phoned exactly when they were due to open. Got through within a minute. Try it and you will be through quicker than you can eat a M and S mince pie!

 

[fundy]

Quordle. Mrs BiM and I have a daily challenge. She did hers and sent me the results, one in 6, one in 8 and 2 blowouts. Smelling blood, I dived in and started, getting the first one in 3. “Which one did you get?”, says Management. “Xxxxx” says I. “That’s not anywhere in mine” says she.

Having both completed Quordle 283, we both had completely different sets of words! ?

Did you have a german name as one of the answers?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Did you have a german name as one of the answers?

Jawohl.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Did you have a german name as one of the answers?

I had that, but for the life of me couldn't get it

 

[fundy]

I had that, but for the life of me couldn't get it

4,5,7,8 with a couple of lucky guesses lol

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Could you not do it online? (not meaning to be a smart alec, there may be a reason. It just doesn't get lost then)

My wife had to make a payment to the tax office, it had to be a cheque . She sent it, they cashed it but have not allocated it against her. Trying to speak to a real human about it is nigh on impossible. They are very adept at avoiding people.

Pah..... my last to VAT submissions have been accepted, and they confirm the amount they will take out of my account only to then take a lesser figure out.
They argue they have taken the right amount out each time, until the accountant points out their acceptance of the greater figure (as concoured by Quickbooks) so then they admit their error as it's now someone elses VAT payment they have taken from me, for which I then have to make an extra manual payment to make my payment correct.
No wonder the countries finances are in a state (politics aside)

 

[Orikoru]

Quordle. Mrs BiM and I have a daily challenge. She did hers and sent me the results, one in 6, one in 8 and 2 blowouts. Smelling blood, I dived in and started, getting the first one in 3. “Which one did you get?”, says Management. “Xxxxx” says I. “That’s not anywhere in mine” says she.

Having both completed Quordle 283, we both had completely different sets of words! ?

Could she have clicked on 'practice' instead of daily by mistake?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Pah..... my last to VAT submissions have been accepted, and they confirm the amount they will take out of my account only to then take a lesser figure out.
They argue they have taken the right amount out each time, until the accountant points out their acceptance of the greater figure (as concoured by Quickbooks) so then they admit their error as it's now someone elses VAT payment they have taken from me, for which I then have to make an extra manual payment to make my payment correct.
No wonder the countries finances are in a state (politics aside)

We applied for child benefit for the twins even though I'd have to pay all back due to over the limit , I clicked the box on form claim but don't pay me (then they get NI numbers when 16, not auto anymore) and the wife would get state pension stamps if out of work

Anyways few months went past heard nothing bamn £500 (just over can't remember the odd £) dropped into my wife's account

I called up next day to explain and ready to pay it back

"Ah I can see you clicked don't pay me, well that's our error, keep the money we will send a letter to confirm"

Like you say. No wonder

 

[Blue in Munich]

Could she have clicked on 'practice' instead of daily by mistake?

No, practice games don’t give you a game number; we both had the same game number but thanks for the thought.

 

[Blue in Munich]

As Fundy alludes to, the tax codes are wrong. As soon as you know what your annual income is going to be, advise HMRC that it needs changing.

https://www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account

Thanks for the link James. I've gone online and checked, and the amount I owe online is about 1/3 of the amount I owe according to the letter I've received from them. They are beyond help!

 

[Dando]

The number of hair care products Mrs d has in the bathroom plus there’s shower gel and moisturizer.

I’ve got an all in 1 hair and body gel and would brush my teeth with it if I could