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Random Irritations

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Posts on the ‘what TV series are you watching’ thread that discusses or hints at major plot lines or outcomes. I’m having to completely avoid the thread as there is posting about the outcome and ending of the excellent Mare of Easttown. We are on Ep3 of 7. Please desist.?
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I'll tell you what, we'll not discuss any TV shows just in case you haven't seen them ???
 
Kellfire said:
I think this is easy to say when you’re on the side that never faces discrimination but I do understand why positive discrimination annoys people. I grew up in a country where it took positive discrimination to get catholics into the police force and ultimately this was a good thing, in my opinion.
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Do you want the best Policeman to stop you or the one who’s a bit vague on the law?

It wasn’t just the Police force in NI. As you know, and as I did interviewing over there, it included countless jobs/apprenticeships. But applying your positive discrimination beyond the narrow parameters you’ve experienced isn’t necessarily the right thing to do.

There is a place for positive discrimination, as much as I detest it, but applying it across the board to justify an argument is a little binary.
 
Fade and Die said:
No but this is a discussion about recruitment to the Metropolitan Police which I think is equal.

Unfortunately the Met has been found to be historically racist, yes it will have changed, but the point that it is equal, I’m not sure and I believe the Met Commissioner would be more aware of that than you and me.

again that’s a bigger discussion which the forum is incapable of discussing as proved in the Coronavirus thread.

Like any big employer the Met will be a microcosm of real life, there will be racists, sexists, honest people and bad people, are you incapable of seeing this.


Historically, loads. Especially in politics and big organisations but I believe that is changing.

So you accept it is/has been there, but in your opinion the Met is either a small organisation or is the role model?
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I leave this here:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...tephen-lawrence-asian-london-b938309.html?amp
 
Hobbit said:
Do you want the best Policeman to stop you or the one who’s a bit vague on the law?

It wasn’t just the Police force in NI. As you know, and as I did interviewing over there, it included countless jobs/apprenticeships. But applying your positive discrimination beyond the narrow parameters you’ve experienced isn’t necessarily the right thing to do.

There is a place for positive discrimination, as much as I detest it, but applying it across the board to justify an argument is a little binary.
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It’s a nuanced thing, for sure.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Posts on the ‘what TV series are you watching’ thread that discusses or hints at major plot lines or outcomes. I’m having to completely avoid the thread as there is posting about the outcome and ending of the excellent Mare of Easttown. We are on Ep3 of 7. Please desist.?
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they all get kidnapped by aliens
 
this month i need to pay out for a new boiler as our one would qualify as an "old fart" plus the caravan needs its annual service.

while chatting to the guy who services our caravan i mentioned an error code that comes up when we try and switch from mains power to the leisure battery during power cuts - the ECU will probably need replacing so that's another few hundred £'s to add to the bill
 
Fade and Die said:
Come on mate, an opinion piece by a disgruntled ex employee speaking ahead of releasing her memoirs? Hardly cast iron proof is it?
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Who said it was cast iron proof, I honestly don’t believe you’ll believe anything other than the Met is “sorted”

Cressida Dick the Met Police Chief wants the Government to consider a form of positive discrimination in recruiting.

Why has she done this?

“Britain's most senior police officer made the plea after emphasising that police forces must reflect the community they serve.
The Met is currently made up of 18 per cent black and ethnic minority officers, but is aiming to increase this to 40 per cent - the same proportion of black and ethnic minorities in London.”

You’ve told us the Met Police recruitment is equal, the evidence shows it’s not.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed, too many working on minimum wage on zero hours contracts if the employer can get away with it. Our EU friends were willing to put up with it...our indigenous workforce seem less inclined to be so used. And so we have a mess.

[add] Our pub landlord in Norfolk also indicated that furlough didn’t help as many in hospitality realised what life could be like on about the same money but not working stupid or unsocial hours. He also mentioned how much of the UK hospitality workforce were recently graduated students. They’d worked the unsocial hours through their further education as those were the only times they could work...and so continuing after graduation was no big deal. This break from that work has made that particular workforce question going back doing it - and many haven’t. I believe the workforce shortfall figure in north Norfolk area he mentioned was 40%.

That it is Tim Martin who is pointing out the issue and him making the request for more low-skilled EU workers merited an entry under the ‘Laughter - the best medicine’ topic - though it is too serious to joke about.
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Where were you? North Norfolk is my old stomping ground.
 
Beezerk said:
I'll tell you what, we'll not discuss any TV shows just in case you haven't seen them ???
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You don’t need to discuss a TV series when recommending it...or telling me it’s rubbish. Just recognise that some may be watching and will not want to know any outcome or plot line resolutions.
 
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