Random Irritations

[Deleted member 21784]

Sadly not until January https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57270415

At least you were able to stuff GA by leaving them. Irritating but with a satisfying ending

But as always wont this just increase price for all? Rather than lower price for excisting just level the price for everyone , end of cheap cheap

 

[Lord Tyrion]

But as always wont this just increase price for all? Rather than lower price for excisting just level the price for everyone , end of cheap cheap

I guess we will see. However, the ones who tend to get hit with the increasing prices are the old who are more trusting, less likely to ring around. They feel intimidated by the process. We now do it for my FiL but without us he would be one of the ones paying over the odds. Surely we need to protect people who are not lazy, just not up to speed with modern techniques used by these companies.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I guess we will see. However, the ones who tend to get hit with the increasing prices are the old who are more trusting, less likely to ring around. They feel intimidated by the process. We now do it for my FiL but without us he would be one of the ones paying over the odds. Surely we need to protect people who are not lazy, just not up to speed with modern techniques used by these companies.

Very true good point. The elderly are basically conned by these companies. It's disgusting

 

[Deleted member 1147]

What about the millions worldwide who don't subscribe to any of those?

you don't have to subscribe, you can still read it

 

[Papas1982]

Let’s be honest. The journalists will try to twist things and provoke them, but the media teams of sports stars do the exact same thing in only showing them at their finest.

Simply going to their respective insta, Feb or Twitter account isn’t going to give you a true reflection of them either.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Let’s be honest. The journalists will try to twist things and provoke them, but the media teams of sports stars do the exact same thing in only showing them at their finest.

Simply going to their respective insta, Feb or Twitter account isn’t going to give you a true reflection of them either.

It's why I think this brooks Vs Bryson thing is a bit overplayed for social media

They prob don't like each other but like the other pros tweeting about it .. linked to the idea of the extra money for those who have the biggest social media etc?

Maybe I'm cynical

 

[Papas1982]

It's why I think this brooks Vs Bryson thing is a bit overplayed for social media

They prob don't like each other but like the other pros tweeting about it .. linked to the idea of the extra money for those who have the biggest social media etc?

Maybe I'm cynical

Yeah the brooks thing is a bit like boxers for me.

I think broeks thinks far too much of himself tbh. Him n DJ were obv realativley close at one point. But as soon as he won a few majors he binned him too.

 

[RichA]

Yeah the brooks thing is a bit like boxers for me.

I think broeks thinks far too much of himself tbh. Him n DJ were obv realativley close at one point. But as soon as he won a few majors he binned him too.

To be fair, some of us can be a little niggly when there's a box of balls, a towel or a fiver at stake. These guys have staff to pay and are playing for millions of fivers at a time.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

There is going to be a roll out of bodycams for paramedics across England. The irritation is not for that but for the fact that they are needed . The only good news is that hopefully it will lead to more parasites being jailed. What goes through the head of someone who attacks a paramedic?

 

[Papas1982]

To be fair, some of us can be a little niggly when there's a box of balls, a towel or a fiver at stake. These guys have staff to pay and are playing for millions of fivers at a time.

For a few of them that maybe failed on their big break that’s true, but the ones at the top. The financial repercussions are the least of their concerns.
the average person playing for a fiver probably more concerned with their bills than someone who could retire are a year long career.

 

[RichA]

For a few of them that maybe failed on their big break that’s true, but the ones at the top. The financial repercussions are the least of their concerns.
the average person playing for a fiver probably more concerned with their bills than someone who could retire are a year long career.

I get that, to an extent, but I'm suggesting that the stakes are unimaginably higher, be they financial or ego driven.

 

[Fade and Die]

If it was a fair system then there wouldn’t be any discrimination, it isn’t and it never has been, however, it has improved.

The box ticking (as you describe it) exercise as you describe it had to be introduced because it excluded people for the reasons you’re against.

Why do you think the existing system is unfair?

Do you think that applicants from ethnic minorities are actually prejudiced against or do you think that a career in the Police has no appeal for some sections of the community because of historical distrust?

I can see the value of actively trying to recruit from Bame communities especially in areas of high diversity but not at the expense of a more capable applicant who happens to be for their sins White English.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Tim Martin writes in the Telegraph today wanting easier access for low-skilled EU workers to work in the UK hospitality industry. The irony. You couldn’t make it up.

We got a sense of the issue when in Norfolk recently. One of the pubs we tried to book for dinner was closed on Sundays and was - at least temporarily - going to be closing on Mondays as well as, post-lockdown, they have not been able to recruit the staff they need to be open seven days and can‘t have their staff working seven days a week.

Apparently chefs are particularly difficult to recruit but the issue is across the board. The owner told us that many British workers who were working in the trade have found other jobs that provide similar or better paid work with better work-life balance, and they are not going to go back. And of course many EU workers have gone back to their own home country and are not inclined to return, especially with all the paperwork etc. required of them.

I think that what we are hearing about recruitment in the hospitality industry speak for themselves and I seek no debate...it’s just very irritating. What a mess. Tim Martin? Well...

 

[GB72]

Tim Martin writes in the Telegraph today wanting easier access for low-skilled EU workers to work in the UK hospitality industry. The irony. You couldn’t make it up.

We got a sense of the issue when in Norfolk recently. One of the pubs we tried to book for dinner was closed on Sundays and was - at least temporarily - going to be closing on Mondays as well as, post-lockdown, they have not been able to recruit the staff they need to be open seven days and can‘t have their staff working seven days a week.

Apparently chefs are particularly difficult to recruit but the issue is across the board. The owner told us that many British workers who were working in the trade have found other jobs that provide similar or better paid work with better work-life balance, and they are not going to go back. And of course many EU workers have gone back to their own home country and are not inclined to return, especially with all the paperwork etc. required of them.

I think that what we are hearing about recruitment in the hospitality industry speak for themselves and I seek no debate...it’s just very irritating. What a mess. Tim Martin? Well...

A mess indeed but also much to be said about the comments about going to better paid jobs or jobs with a better work/life balance. Perhaps some in the hospitality industry need to be looking at themselves as well as blaming a lack of people willing to work unsociable hours for low pay.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why do you think the existing system is unfair?

Do you think that applicants from ethnic minorities are actually prejudiced against or do you think that a career in the Police has no appeal for some sections of the community because of historical distrust?

I can see the value of actively trying to recruit from Bame communities especially in areas of high diversity but not at the expense of a more capable applicant who happens to be for their sins White English.

Are you honestly saying we live in an equal society?

Come on, just look at education to start with and how those born to money have access to certain schools, universities that those from lesser backgrounds don’t.

The difference it can make on a CV etc.

I totally agree it should be best person for any job regardless of colour, religion, race etc, but have an equal society/system takes time and until we all lose our prejudices there will need to be positive discrimination to force the balance.

How many “white English” could be in positions of influence today because they were chosen over a more able qualified ethnic person due to skin colour.

 

[Fade and Die]

Are you honestly saying we live in an equal society?

No but this is a discussion about recruitment to the Metropolitan Police which I think is equal.

Come on, just look at education to start with and how those born to money have access to certain schools, universities that those from lesser backgrounds don’t.

The difference it can make on a CV etc.

again that’s a bigger discussion which the forum is incapable of discussing as proved in the Coronavirus thread.

How many “white English” could be in positions of influence today because they were chosen over a more able qualified ethnic person due to skin colour.

Historically, loads. Especially in politics and big organisations but I believe that is changing.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

A mess indeed but also much to be said about the comments about going to better paid jobs or jobs with a better work/life balance. Perhaps some in the hospitality industry need to be looking at themselves as well as blaming a lack of people willing to work unsociable hours for low pay.

Indeed, too many working on minimum wage on zero hours contracts if the employer can get away with it. Our EU friends were willing to put up with it...our indigenous workforce seem less inclined to be so used. And so we have a mess.

[add] Our pub landlord in Norfolk also indicated that furlough didn’t help as many in hospitality realised what life could be like on about the same money but not working stupid or unsocial hours. He also mentioned how much of the UK hospitality workforce were recently graduated students. They’d worked the unsocial hours through their further education as those were the only times they could work...and so continuing after graduation was no big deal. This break from that work has made that particular workforce question going back doing it - and many haven’t. I believe the workforce shortfall figure in north Norfolk area he mentioned was 40%.

That it is Tim Martin who is pointing out the issue and him making the request for more low-skilled EU workers merited an entry under the ‘Laughter - the best medicine’ topic - though it is too serious to joke about.

 

[GB72]

Indeed, too many working on minimum wage on zero hours contracts if the employer can get away with it. Our EU friends were willing to put up with it...our indigenous workforce seem less inclined to be so used. And so we have a mess.

That Tim Martin is pointing out the issue and request for more low-skilled EU workers merited an entry under the ‘Laughter - the best medicine’ topic.

Indeed, you can approach the situation from 2 directions, look for an outside source of labour to accept the current conditions or stump up the cash to entice people back into the hospitality industry, no surprise on the route he took. Other establishments have looked after their staff and, surprise surprise, still have their staff at the end of the pandemic.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Posts on the ‘what TV series are you watching’ thread that discusses or hints at major plot lines or outcomes. I’m having to completely avoid the thread as there is posting about the outcome and ending of the excellent Mare of Easttown. We are on Ep3 of 7. Please desist.?

 

[RichA]

Posts on the ‘what TV series are you watching’ thread that discusses or hints at major plot lines or outcomes. I’m having to completely avoid the thread as there is posting about the outcome and ending of the excellent Mare of Easttown. We are on Ep3 of 7. Please desist.?

Is that the one where it all turns out to have been a dream?