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I believe that the winners of the Welsh cup ( The New Saints) …….who? ?
complained of under reporting when the event was last staged in 2019
Over nearly 150yrs plenty of Scottish clubs have won one of the two cups in the same season, but outside of the OF only (Ferguson’s) Aberdeen have done it, and even though they are the club of the 3rd largest Scottish city they have only done it twice. As the club of a provincial city of under 50,000 population, what St Johnstone have just done is unlikely to EVER be repeated.

But I guess rather than recognise and celebrate the achievement of the club it’s easier for south of the border to dismiss it or make a joke of it...QED. :mad:
 
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Over nearly 150yrs plenty of Scottish clubs have won one of the two cups in the same season, but outside of the OF only (Ferguson’s) Aberdeen have done it, and even though they are the club of the 3rd largest Scottish city they have only done it twice. As the club of a provincial city of under 50,000 population, what St Johnstone have just done is unlikely to EVER be repeated.

But I guess rather than recognise and celebrate the achievement of the club it’s easier for south of the border to dismiss it or make a joke of it...QED. :mad:
Why should we care south of the border? It has no relevance to our Leagues?‍♂️
 
Well, I have to say it's a rarity, and well done St Johnstone. But they are currently one of the top 12 teams in Scotland, so perhaps not quite that dramatic?

More importantly some of us know that both Cally, and Falkirk naffed up their bids for playoff places, the latter quite dramatically so. And all known without the benefit of the English press - who as we know, don't report on small teams from small towns/cities whichever side of the border they may hail from.
 
Over nearly 150yrs plenty of Scottish clubs have won one of the two cups in the same season, but outside of the OF only (Ferguson’s) Aberdeen have done it, and even though they are the club of the 3rd largest Scottish city they have only done it twice. As the club of a provincial city of under 50,000 population, what St Johnstone have just done is unlikely to EVER be repeated.

But I guess rather than recognise and celebrate the achievement of the club it’s easier for south of the border to dismiss it or make a joke of it...QED. :mad:

I'll put my hands up and admit that I know almost nothing about football, and care even less BUT.... genuine question.... are you saying that Scottish clubs only have local "home grown" players in their teams and don't "import" players from other areas/countries???
 
Over nearly 150yrs plenty of Scottish clubs have won one of the two cups in the same season, but outside of the OF only (Ferguson’s) Aberdeen have done it, and even though they are the club of the 3rd largest Scottish city they have only done it twice. As the club of a provincial city of under 50,000 population, what St Johnstone have just done is unlikely to EVER be repeated.

But I guess rather than recognise and celebrate the achievement of the club it’s easier for south of the border to dismiss it or make a joke of it...QED. :mad:

My home town club, who I support with a passion and read the local sports pages and club website every day, is Middlesbrough. I watch football every week. I haven’t got a clue where 90% of the English clubs finished in their respective divisions, nor what division some teams are in. Apart from the recent FA cup I haven’t got a clue who won what.

Why the “south of the border” comment? To be honest, it just comes across as yet another Scot throwing out an anti-English comment. I wonder how many Scots who support other teams in Scotland give toss too?
 
Over nearly 150yrs plenty of Scottish clubs have won one of the two cups in the same season, but outside of the OF only (Ferguson’s) Aberdeen have done it, and even though they are the club of the 3rd largest Scottish city they have only done it twice. As the club of a provincial city of under 50,000 population, what St Johnstone have just done is unlikely to EVER be repeated.

But I guess rather than recognise and celebrate the achievement of the club it’s easier for south of the border to dismiss it or make a joke of it...QED. :mad:
I'm a lifelong football fan. I had to look up the results to see what you were talking about.
Why would anyone outside Scotland care about Scottish domestic football? Does anyone outside England care about English football other than the PL?
 
I'm a lifelong football fan. I had to look up the results to see what you were talking about.
Why would anyone outside Scotland care about Scottish domestic football? Does anyone outside England care about English football other than the PL?
Also, likening winning a Scottish cup to winning the English Premier League was absolutely absurd. ?
 
I'm a lifelong football fan. I had to look up the results to see what you were talking about.
Why would anyone outside Scotland care about Scottish domestic football? Does anyone outside England care about English football other than the PL?
Tbh most of us don't give a flip about the vastly overrated epl either !
 
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"Nitro PDF" being a pile of :poop:. Can't even combine 20 PDFs without it crashing every time. But hey the company has saved a few quid so that's alright.
 
I'll put my hands up and admit that I know almost nothing about football, and care even less BUT.... genuine question.... are you saying that Scottish clubs only have local "home grown" players in their teams and don't "import" players from other areas/countries???
Absolutely the case with St Johnstone - though ‘local’ area as in Scotland. Every player who played in the two cup finals was born in Scotland, and many are lads from Perth and area. Obviously St Johnstone and other clubs do recruit from rUK and very occasionally overseas, but they don‘t have budget for transfer fees or higher wages. I don’t think StJ paid any transfer fees for the current team. Average StJ player salary is about £55k a year.

Unlike the OF.
 
Dominic Cummings. Not the political side as that is not allowed here. Just seems to be a really nasty vindictive up-his-own-backside human being.
..and a liar and manipulator into the bargain - on the personal side of course - testing his eyesight...yeh right. Funny how some who seemed to love him now hate him. Don’t think his character has changed. Btw - I have no love whatsoever for him.
 
I'm a lifelong football fan. I had to look up the results to see what you were talking about.
Why would anyone outside Scotland care about Scottish domestic football? Does anyone outside England care about English football other than the PL?
My gripe with the Guardian (and ST) is that this was the Cup Final and there are plenty of Scots in rUK who might care. But not a mention. Bet if either of the OF had been playing there would have been a report.
 
My gripe with the Guardian (and ST) is that this was the Cup Final and there are plenty of Scots in rUK who might care. But not a mention. Bet if either of the OF had been playing there would have been a report.
There are a gazillion other ways of finding the information. Prompted by your post, it took me about 20 seconds to find the reports, and I'm not even interested. Surely an avid follower of Scottish domestic football isn't waiting to find the results in tomorrow's Guardian?
 
My home town club, who I support with a passion and read the local sports pages and club website every day, is Middlesbrough. I watch football every week. I haven’t got a clue where 90% of the English clubs finished in their respective divisions, nor what division some teams are in. Apart from the recent FA cup I haven’t got a clue who won what.

Why the “south of the border” comment? To be honest, it just comes across as yet another Scot throwing out an anti-English comment. I wonder how many Scots who support other teams in Scotland give toss too?
Oh for goodness sake. This is a complaint about the press not reporting the single most important football match of the year in Scotland, it’s nothing to do with having a go at England and the English.

As it happens you will find that supporters of all teams in Scotland are highly delighted as it shows that with decent club and team management there is hope for all Scottish clubs. It is only mid-late 80s that StJ were at risk of dropping out of the top senior leagues when bottom of Div2. StJ Message boards are full of congrats from supporters across all Scottish leagues. Its not all about the OF.

The point is that this is equivalent to - potentially even exceeds - the unexpected and astonishing success of Leicester City in winning the EPL. And I thought that that would merit wider publicity.
 
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