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Random Irritations

Liverpoolphil said:
😂😂😂😂😂

Please stop with these generic statements with no basis

England/Britain win loads - just check the last couple of Olympics tables for example
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But only if we're sitting down!.
However, methinks you are diverting from the real point he was making about the awful practices in schools where there mustn't be any losers.
That's what should be stopped, no need to worry about generic statements too much.
 
I returned my lovely lease car prior to heading off on our travels - and as I haven't yet decided what to do to replace it I am driving my mum's little 56 plate Ford Fusion. The audio unit in this does not have DAB radio (not surprising), but aaargh - the Aux input to connect my phone or other device is not installed. To connect via Aux I have to either somehow get and guddle behind the unit, and/or take it out (and I don't have the Ford removal 'tools' for it), and have a jack cable hanging loose - or do some work cutting a hole in the central console and fit a Aux socket. Just to compound things the FM reception is total twank!! And I have no idea how to improve it.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
But only if we're sitting down!.
However, methinks you are diverting from the real point he was making about the awful practices in schools where there mustn't be any losers.
That's what should be stopped, no need to worry about generic statements too much.
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Does it really matter at the end of the day , maybe it’s something that is going to help get rid of the awful “competitive” parents that ruin it for the kids , maybe it’s good to get them to just play the sport without winning or losing , far too many concentrate on the winning first and foremost and they don’t get any enjoyment out of the sport. It’s not going to harm them or change their ability
 
The Santander ads featuring the countries most popular Saturday night variety pair...and them going on about 'the Bank of Antandec'...oh how I laugh...

Someone, no doubt having a very well paid job in marketing, thought it a neat play on their names and the bank's.
 
I bet they still have a device in the engine that means if they don't break the speed limit at least once every 100 seconds then the engine conks out....:unsure::LOL:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does it really matter at the end of the day , maybe it’s something that is going to help get rid of the awful “competitive” parents that ruin it for the kids , maybe it’s good to get them to just play the sport without winning or losing , far too many concentrate on the winning first and foremost and they don’t get any enjoyment out of the sport. It’s not going to harm them or change their ability
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I’ve no problem with the getting rid of pushy parents, or even the win at all costs attitude, but imo if they don’t have competition then it will harm their motivation to be the best they can be. Not all of them of course, but even if just one gives up or coasts and doesn’t reach their potential because of it. That’s a bad thing imo.

The scenario at the school today which I raised was pathetic. A young lad, clearly the best runner in the year was literally told before and during the race he had to stop 10 yards short of the finish line so they could all finish together. It doesn’t happen in academic subjects. Success and failure is part of life. At 10/11 kids can learn that.

In Kent they have tests at 10 years old to decide who’s going to grammar schools and who’s not good enough. If they can make that judgement call and celebrate those more intelligent then they can let the kids better at sports beat the others.
 
Norrin Radd said:
thanks mate ,o_Oo_O
the scaffold firm are going to get a bloody big rocket up the proverbial jacksie in the morning ,telling them they had better redesign their ironwork or i will take it down and sell it on ebay.
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Well mind how you go, as every scaffolder I have ever met seems to have a screw loose, coupled with the fact that they are lifting dead weights everyday and are normally built like brick out houses maybe just explain the lack of tv and hope they see your problem 😁
 
This irritation is really for my tight fisted PP at Ratho GC seniors open today :ROFLMAO:.
He had 2 x 2s today but didn't enter the magic 2s comp :eek: entry was only £2 prize 6 Provs, so he lost out on 12 prov1s.
I entered but missed my 2 chances :mad:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does it really matter at the end of the day , maybe it’s something that is going to help get rid of the awful “competitive” parents that ruin it for the kids , maybe it’s good to get them to just play the sport without winning or losing , far too many concentrate on the winning first and foremost and they don’t get any enjoyment out of the sport. It’s not going to harm them or change their ability
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It does harm them because children are being taught that just taking part wins a prize.
 
Orikoru said:
And how many were in athletics? We only win medals in posh sports you need expensive equipment to win, like cycling, rowing, sailing, etc.
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What a bizarre post. We currently have the one of the best swimmers in the world - Adam Peaty who has held 3 World Records as well as an Olympic gold. At the 2016 Olympics Mo Farah won the 10,000m and 5,000m gold, Alistair Brownlee won the Triathalon, Max Whitlock picked up 2 Gymnastics golds, we won gold at the 3m Syncro Diving, Jade Jones won gold in Taekwondo, Nicola Adams in boxing, but yeah, we only won at the posh sports.

Do agree RE: participation medals though, teaching kids that everyone gets a medal and there is no prize for being the best at something is unbelievably dumb. It's this whole culture of avoiding potentially upsetting or offending anyone that's causing it. People need to get a backbone and realise that their kids losing is actually going to teach them valuable life lessons instead of letting them group up entitled.
 
Kellfire said:
It does harm them because children are being taught that just taking part wins a prize.
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Totally agree. I'd rather they learned early on to play to win and win with humility but lose and do so with good grace (as my dad taught me). Life isn't fair and maybe I am old fashioned but while I am all for kids playing as much and as many sports as they can, giving medals so no-one is upset is simply wrong and in the OP's case would IMO have upset the kid who is clearly the best there and didn't get a chance to win a race his performance deserved to. I think these participation medals are endemic of the "snowflake" society we seem to be lumbering towards at a rate of knots. A few people could do well to learn a few life lessons
 
Crazyface said:
Maybe your guidance needs to be clearer, try; Here's a bucket & sponge, fill it with water and go and clean the bogs over and over again.

Fixed that for you.:mad:
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In my defense, when I wrote that post my car was exceptionally dirty, while someone had already cleaned the toilets that day. Its really a timing issue :unsure:
 
Slab said:
In my defense, when I wrote that post my car was exceptionally dirty, while someone had already cleaned the toilets that day. Its really a timing issue :unsure:
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Sure, but this little waster need to learn sharpish that life will not just give her everything on a plate.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Does it really matter at the end of the day , maybe it’s something that is going to help get rid of the awful “competitive” parents that ruin it for the kids , maybe it’s good to get them to just play the sport without winning or losing , far too many concentrate on the winning first and foremost and they don’t get any enjoyment out of the sport. It’s not going to harm them or change their ability
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It really is going to harm them. If kids are taught to win well, without being a bighead about it, and when they lose , to take it without shame or rancour, then it is going to help make a fair minded adult who may help others not as good as him/her.
Kids who get prizes for no effort can easily grow up feeling they are as entitled to the things in life they are not prepared to work for, resenting those who have made effort.
And if this "schools attitude"!makes its way into the adult world ( which it does to some extent ) then we are heading for trouble. "Don't tell people they have failed, it might upset them "type of nonsense

I used to tongue in cheek , and for a smile,give a scenario in the ( not too distant? ) future, where a surgeon is stood over you as you lay on the operating table, saying to his nurse.
" I wasn't much good at learning this stuff, but they passed me because they said I tried very hard"
We are on a slippery slope unless this schools attitude changes.
 
Papas1982 said:
I’ve no problem with the getting rid of pushy parents, or even the win at all costs attitude, but imo if they don’t have competition then it will harm their motivation to be the best they can be. Not all of them of course, but even if just one gives up or coasts and doesn’t reach their potential because of it. That’s a bad thing imo.

The scenario at the school today which I raised was pathetic. A young lad, clearly the best runner in the year was literally told before and during the race he had to stop 10 yards short of the finish line so they could all finish together. It doesn’t happen in academic subjects. Success and failure is part of life. At 10/11 kids can learn that.

In Kent they have tests at 10 years old to decide who’s going to grammar schools and who’s not good enough. If they can make that judgement call and celebrate those more intelligent then they can let the kids better at sports beat the others.
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It’s finding the balance , sport participation was on the decline , people just didn’t play it , it was too hard to go out in the weather etc , and there was far too much focus on people “winning” as opposed to kids just taking part. The culture needed to change especially in the early years until they hit true competitive sport to try and get as many kids just playing the game and trying to grab their attention to it. It’s not harming kids or the sport to trying ensure everyone feels like a winner just for taking part - its a shame this country is always about the winning and there is have been far too many issues of parents and indeed kids demeaning others because they didn’t win.

Unless someone can provide so basis or facts to back up any theories of it “harming” kids or sport right now it’s just opinions - you only have to look at the how well the nation is performing over the decade in many sports

An example is some countries when they play football under the age of 10 there isn’t any goals - it’s not about winning it’s just playing

But there needs to be a balance and it’s finding that after the age of 11 etc
 
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