Random Irritations

People driving vehicles need to be able to control their car, not expect technology to step in.
Whilst I agree in the main, there isnt anyone who drives who hasn't at one point or another had that "moment" where they did or in some cases didn't "get lucky".
My only gripe with the auto braking is it's too black or white. To have your vehicle go into emergency brake mode just because the sensor has picked up something that isn't there, or decided my judgement on overtaking a car turning left is wrong causing the appliacation of emergency braking isn't fun for me or those behind me.
 
People reversing into a parking spot using only the camera and making a complete dogs dinner of it
It's much easier and quicker to drive into a restricted space than to reverse into a restricted space
and
It's much easier and quicker to reverse into a wide open space than reverse into a restricted space.

Why doesn't everyone do it ??
 
It's much easier and quicker to drive into a restricted space than to reverse into a restricted space
and
It's much easier and quicker to reverse into a wide open space than reverse into a restricted space.

Why doesn't everyone do it ??

Not from what I witnessed today - certainly failed horribly

Just turn your head and use your driving skills
 
Just looking into my Mum’s car park accident. She has a 2024 Toyota and this should have full ADAS with pre collision warning.. just asking if it has intervention because her car carried on moving and impacted with 2 other cars.
As an engineer I would have thought the whole system would have prevented this, after all this would have been part of our design requirements sign off.
I have told her to hold firm and make them investigate Toyota and its functionality. As customers we pay a lot now for cars and this is one of those cost drivers .. so it has to work 99.9% of the time and when it doesn’t the manufacturers should be liable.
Absolutely agree. When buying a new car, or build as they say, it's not one price as it used to be.
Funny, I was only
thinking about this earlier impact protection and wondered if it would actually work.
So yes, hope the wife digs her heels in.
 
It's much easier and quicker to drive into a restricted space than to reverse into a restricted space
and
It's much easier and quicker to reverse into a wide open space than reverse into a restricted space.

Why doesn't everyone do it ??
I always reverse into a parking spot. Getting out is so much easier and safer.
 
Bur why bother? Drive in, reverse out.
Probably because I have already signalled my intention so the following vehicle or pedestrians in car park are aware of my impending action. It then makes it safer as easier to pull out when I leave there as I have better visibility of whats coming or around me.
Maybe it's just because I have driven panel vans for the last 40 years which must by law have 2 outside mirrors and you must have them adjusted correctly to be able to manouvre safely.
Both my daughters also drive on their mirrors and can park acurately and they also reverse into a bay or spot.
 
IIRC when we lived in Germany, the requirement (law, Germans driving rules are law) was to reverse into the carpark space if the space was at 90 deg to the road. I think the logic is that you then come out forward into traffic.

Conversely, I think the Americans have to drive forward into spaces when the spaces are at 45 deg to the road and then reverse out into traffic.

I could be wrong, memory is waning.
 
I didnt think all the auto collision controls were active below a certain speed. I know my VW Transporter doesnt play it until about 20/30 is in play, and my Mazda CX5 is about 10-15 mph.
However, both brands say it's to reduce a collision and possible damage, not stop it.
Yes I was looking at it, but people are using it to draw up to walls and garages .. so not sure why hers kept going. There was no acceleration and the brakes failed to retard the car. The Corolla had a brake pressure fault at low speed turn in but I haven’t read any of this for her car. I have read the radar is a bit unreliable.
 
People driving vehicles need to be able to control their car, not expect technology to step in.
Yes exactly but when the tech overrides the driver and ADAS can .. mine has tried to stop the car when there has been no obstacles. So I think there is still some issues .. not as bad as the Tesla missing white semi trucks though.
 
Yes I was looking at it, but people are using it to draw up to walls and garages .. so not sure why hers kept going. There was no acceleration and the brakes failed to retard the car. The Corolla had a brake pressure fault at low speed turn in but I haven’t read any of this for her car. I have read the radar is a bit unreliable.
Could she have been going too slow for it to activate?
I have looked at various manufacturers info, and no one says it stops a collision, only can help to mitigate one.
My last Mazda 3 had the full suite of safety add ons. I tested it with cardboard boxes in an empty car park just to see how responsive and good it was. It helped, but definately didn't stop the empty boxes moving. :)
 
IIRC when we lived in Germany, the requirement (law, Germans driving rules are law) was to reverse into the carpark space if the space was at 90 deg to the road. I think the logic is that you then come out forward into traffic.

Conversely, I think the Americans have to drive forward into spaces when the spaces are at 45 deg to the road and then reverse out into traffic.

I could be wrong, memory is waning.
I think I've seen that in some us states they don't have licence plates at the front so the police want to be able to drive past a parked car, read the number plate. If they were reversed, that couldn't happen. This could be FB guff but I'm sure that has come up on there before.

Equally with herringbone parking, so common in the us, reversing out is very quick, simple and largely safe. Much easier than our 90deg parking. The Americans have this one right, I wish our car parks copied them on this issue.
 
Could she have been going too slow for it to activate?
I have looked at various manufacturers info, and no one says it stops a collision, only can help to mitigate one.
My last Mazda 3 had the full suite of safety add ons. I tested it with cardboard boxes in an empty car park just to see how responsive and good it was. It helped, but definately didn't stop the empty boxes moving. :)
Quite possibly, but the brake system should allow a 50kg woman to apply a stopping force without the actuator. She was pressing the brakes and nothing was happening, she is questioning whether she got the accelerator but my Dad said the car never got faster or jerked forward.. it just kept going.
 
I think I've seen that in some us states they don't have licence plates at the front so the police want to be able to drive past a parked car, read the number plate. If they were reversed, that couldn't happen. This could be FB guff but I'm sure that has come up on there before.

Equally with herringbone parking, so common in the us, reversing out is very quick, simple and largely safe. Much easier than our 90deg parking. The Americans have this one right, I wish our car parks copied them on this issue.
The number plate issue seems very logical.

Our club carpark creates some issues. We have two rows of double slots where some members drive through the first slot to park in the second slot facing out. No problem for them as they can do this when the carpark is not full. But as it fills, their boot now becomes close the the following bonnet with the inherent risk of damaging the following car when loading their golf bags and Trollies.

We do ask members to park nose in but …………horse/water/drink!


Edited to add.
Should we instruct the dress code enforcer/sniper, positioned on the clubhouse roof, to add car parking infringements to his punishment list?
 
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