Random Irritations

Football fans who blame referees every time their team don't win by 2 or 3 clear goals. Watch a Mark Hughes or Allardyce post match interview back and decide whether you really want to be that person.

Are you insinuating Liverpool fans are disgruntled about a red card and penalty last night? Surely not?

It's the nature of the beast though. I remember in the good (or perhaps not so good) of watching Fulham away in the old 4th division, spending hours and lots of cash travelling to far flung places for the privilege and seeing some very poor lower level referee displays, some almost a 12th man for the home side and then moaning about them all the way home as an excuse for why our "star" striker missed a sitter from two yards. It's even harder these days, with the pace of play, players almost professionally diving to get fouls and especially penalties and tackling is becoming a lost art
 
Football fans who blame referees every time their team don't win by 2 or 3 clear goals. Watch a Mark Hughes or Allardyce post match interview back and decide whether you really want to be that person.

DOnt you think people are entitled to see an official do his job properly - and when they dont do their job properly and that performance has consequences for the team people are going to be angry and annoyed

Its a high pressure game , with lots riding on each game whether at the top or the bottom and when a referee fails in his job then he should be held accountable - everyone else is.
 
Every official does his job to the best of his ability. If you think you could do the job better, go and become a referee yourself. The referees in the Premier League are the best at what they do. They make decisions based on what they see at the time, once only and in real time. No multiple replays and perfect views. As other people have said, players miss open goals, openly dive and cheat and yet fans/managers/players always blame the referee when it does not go their way. And when they do get the benefit of a decision, all you hear is "well we were owed that one". It's pathetic complaining like that.
 
DOnt you think people are entitled to see an official do his job properly - and when they dont do their job properly and that performance has consequences for the team people are going to be angry and annoyed

Its a high pressure game , with lots riding on each game whether at the top or the bottom and when a referee fails in his job then he should be held accountable - everyone else is.

Properly or perfectly?
As an entitlement you seem to be expecting it'll be the latter, but that's just not a world we live in (I'm not even sure if a fan does have such an entitlement) The players, coach's and managers probably have an entitlement but fans are a 3rd party, literally a spectator
 
Every official does his job to the best of his ability. If you think you could do the job better, go and become a referee yourself. The referees in the Premier League are the best at what they do. They make decisions based on what they see at the time, once only and in real time. No multiple replays and perfect views. As other people have said, players miss open goals, openly dive and cheat and yet fans/managers/players always blame the referee when it does not go their way. And when they do get the benefit of a decision, all you hear is "well we were owed that one". It's pathetic complaining like that.

When a player “cheats” or “dives” they are openly criticised are they not ? Do people in the droves not jump onto social media or chat with their mates and be critical or defend .

When a player messes up he is criticised, if he does it a number of times he possibly losses his job same with managers - there is consequences for the players and managers when they perform poorly or they don’t act within the rules - yet people can’t judge the officials the same ?

It seems no one had an issue with being critical of the golf ref who penalised Li ?

It’s sport and it’s all part of the discussion, the debate , what people talk about - players , managers , officials - even in the NFL recently with the call in Divisional Champ game - people discussed it

It’s been part of sport for decades

Do you expect people to just not talk about these things ? Pundits speak about it afterwards - should they stop now as well.
 
DOnt you think people are entitled to see an official do his job properly - and when they dont do their job properly and that performance has consequences for the team people are going to be angry and annoyed

Its a high pressure game , with lots riding on each game whether at the top or the bottom and when a referee fails in his job then he should be held accountable - everyone else is.
They do their job properly to their best ability based on a one time, and usually very quick view that may or may not be partially blocked by players. They are constantly assessed on each match they officiate and graded and those deemed not to be performing are rested or moved off the PL list. I didn't see anything last night to say the ref didn't do his job properly. Because decisions didn't go your way doesn't make it a bad performance
 
When a player “cheats” or “dives” they are openly criticised are they not ? Do people in the droves not jump onto social media or chat with their mates and be critical or defend .

When a player messes up he is criticised, if he does it a number of times he possibly losses his job same with managers - there is consequences for the players and managers when they perform poorly or they don’t act within the rules - yet people can’t judge the officials the same ?

It seems no one had an issue with being critical of the golf ref who penalised Li ?

It’s sport and it’s all part of the discussion, the debate , what people talk about - players , managers , officials - even in the NFL recently with the call in Divisional Champ game - people discussed it

It’s been part of sport for decades

Do you expect people to just not talk about these things ? Pundits speak about it afterwards - should they stop now as well.
World of dfference between moaning when other teams get a soft penalty or player dives and then blaming a ref when you don't get a similar decision. How many players really lose their job if they perform badly. At worse they aren't played and eventually loaned/sold off. They aren't sacked like a manager. Think you'll find there was widespread condemnation here and on social medial by experts and professionals at the Li decision and the referee
 
You will never....NEVER.....get a perfect referee.
Even if they were robots, programmed to the highest level, they will still make mistakes.
It's called "rub of the green" in a sport I know.....
Everyone needs to stop criticizing refs when they make a mistake.
They see the incident once...VAR doesn't seem viable at the moment but they can't use that for every decision as the game would take days to finish.
They see it at normal speed.
They're not like the armchair refs and pundits who get the benefit of replays from a multitude of angles.
The "mistakes" the ref made probably took up less than minute of time...
Both teams had another 89+ to score....
That's why Liverpool drew last night.
 
Are you insinuating Liverpool fans are disgruntled about a red card and penalty last night? Surely not?

It's the nature of the beast though. I remember in the good (or perhaps not so good) of watching Fulham away in the old 4th division, spending hours and lots of cash travelling to far flung places for the privilege and seeing some very poor lower level referee displays, some almost a 12th man for the home side and then moaning about them all the way home as an excuse for why our "star" striker missed a sitter from two yards. It's even harder these days, with the pace of play, players almost professionally diving to get fouls and especially penalties and tackling is becoming a lost art
I'm going to take this over to the football thread where it belongs but I just find the constant whining when a decision doesn't go the way of a team, and I do mean constant, incredibly boring. Get over it, it is part of the game, all games, and happens to all teams.
 
Coming onto the random irritations thread and finding it’s been kidnapped by the football thread. :mad:
Want me to mention brexit?

Im still irritated by the murder of Rasputin
I dont want to get more irritated :)

Back where you all belong you bunch of scallywags :cool:
 
Just an aside as a long-time sports writer and TV pundit, it has been more than a random irritation of mine of everyone complaining about officials for 30+ years and have spoken about it live on TV and radio and written about it for many years.
 
Just an aside as a long-time sports writer and TV pundit, it has been more than a random irritation of mine of everyone complaining about officials for 30+ years and have spoken about it live on TV and radio and written about it for many years.

I attach most of the blame to the ex-pro's that pollute punditry with their slanted views of entitlement... Would love to see how they'd cope, out in the middle, whistle in hand...
 
Another Gemma Collins irritation more about what she tweeted how she felt like Tyson Fury and how he got up off the canvas so knew she had to do the same.....

However there is a silver lining the Gypsy Kings reply to her tweet was process and sadly would breach forum swearing rules so I can't post the screen shot here 😂
 
I attach most of the blame to the ex-pro's that pollute punditry with their slanted views of entitlement... Would love to see how they'd cope, out in the middle, whistle in hand...
Didn't Dennis Wise do this for Sky a couple of years back? Handed out cards like sweeties......
 
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