Problems Chipping

[TipTopGolf]

Hey all im having problems chipping.

How can i make the ball stop dead after like 2 bounces?

Same with my short irons too i cant get spin on it i have no idea how to.

Any tips?

Thanks

 

[cm_qs]

How can i make the ball stop dead after like 2 bounces?

Any tips?

Come and play at my course! It's so bloody wet that you'd be lucky to get one bounce.

 

[Parmo]

I believe its all about the quality of contact more than anything else.

 

[birdieman]

For spin you need a crisp descending blow so the ball runs up the clubface very quickly over the grooves which grip the ball cover thereby imparting the spin. If you dont get a clean contact i.e. grooves on ball without grass and dirt inbetween you'll not spin it well.
It is difficult to spin a chip simply because you aren't hitting a chip hard enough to impart much spin. With a pitch however you can easily spin it because the clubhead has some speed. I don't think you should be looking to spin chips too much, land them as quickly as possible to let them run out, the percentages are better with this shot than a 'fly it all the way' lob.
The shot you see a lot of good players play from 30-60 yards is a low pitch that stops quickly with spin. That is played with the ball back in stance and not much wrist hinge.
Oh and very importantly you need a ball with a soft cover ideally, which are the expensive ones. Lots of folk on here say they're a waste of money...they're not if you want your golf going to low handicap territory. Fact.

 

[RGuk]

Here's part of an article

On full irons

"....the club to connect with the ball on the downswing creating a divot after you have struck the ball. This forces the ball either into the ground or to "climb" back along the club face over the grooves. As the ball cannot go into the ground it is forced to climb over the club face where the grooves grip the ball and create the backspin. One of the reasons it is so difficult to get spin out of a fluffy lie is because hitting down on the ball allows the ball to go forward into the grass (rather than back over the grooves), and the grass getting between the grooves and the ball limits or negates backspin"


Good technique.....basically.

As for short chips, the most spin you can achieve will be with wedges.....I play almost all chips with 7/8/9 irons and encourage the ball to roll. If I HAVE to clip one cleanly off the turf and hit it more in the air, I call that a small pitch. A small backswing, followed by a really aggressive punch "down" on the ball to take a mini-divot will get the best results....but don't expect miracles.

One thing that does work (temporarily) is to sand the face of your sand wedge, but only for entertainment value!

 

[TonyN]

You just will not get that kind of behaviour from chipping, Pitching maybe, and only if you do what the above have metioned.

Its very easy to think, yeah al shoot at the flag here and make the ball sit up quickly. Unless you really have a great technique its not going to happen, the best shot is almost always, not the prettiest. Just bump it with a 7,8 or 9 and let it run out as RGUK says.

Have you checked out videojug for golf instruction, IMO its the best on the net (on par with GM )

 

[RGuk]

Oh and very importantly you need a ball with a soft cover ideally, which are the expensive ones. Lots of folk on here say they're a waste of money...they're not if you want your golf going to low handicap territory. Fact.

How low are we talking?? I've played gross par 9s (admittedly, not a full 18) with all sorts of rubbish balls. Properly hit short irons stop decently with any ball. As for spin around the greens, what's so wrong with your own mentioned technique of chip n RUN?

The sort of shot you are talking about, the low punchy "check up" spin shots are ONLY possible with a soft cover ball....that's the only FACT you're talking about. You don't have to play this shot to get the ball around the course in a low score.

 

[andiritchie]

whack open the face of a 60 nice aggressive swing hitting down on the ball will do it looks good unless you blade it 60 yards back where you came from

 

[TipTopGolf]

Thanks for the advice guys im gonna give it a go.

When i play a pitch the ball is not far off my left foot,so maybe i need to be more on the right one.

With my shots too i have a high trajectory,so it should be easier shouldnt it?

 

[andiritchie]

when chipping have more weight on your left side and keep it there so you dont thin it

 

[TonyN]

Get on Videojug tiptop!!!

 

[TipTopGolf]

Thanks Tony just checked it out some good tips on there!

Although he doesnt say anything about a high Trajectory

 

[TonyN]

What about high trajectory???

 

[USER1999]

This is rubbish.

This 2 bounce and stop stuff is for pro's.

Chatting to my course pro the other day, watching some kid doing this, Chaz was saying that he has only seen 2 guys doing this at my club (and one of them wasn't himself) consistently. 750 members, 150 odd off single figures.

Yeah, we can all do this accidentally, and you can do this with a topflite too, but you can't count on it, so it is useless.

Better to learn how to pitch it (with any club - my favourite is a 54 degree wedge) and let it run out (to an extent).

 

[Herbie]

Hey all im having problems chipping.

How can i make the ball stop dead after like 2 bounces?

Same with my short irons too i cant get spin on it i have no idea how to.

Any tips?

Thanks

To give you a good answer would require knowing your h/c and seeing you play. But to give you a general answer...dont worry about it and just learn to master what skills you already have. Ive been playing 31yrs on and off and I cant manage that sort of shot with any level of consistancy so I dont try to and until recently going from 7h/c to 9 due to illness I have learned many skills over the yrs, many of which are useless. You need the commitment and consistancy of a pro for that sort of shot to be of real benefit in your game so unless you have that tallent and will,you should just stick with simple shots to achieve your goal.

If I can place a ball by hand I could probably make one or two such shots, the trouble is every lie is different.There have been times in the past where Ive made par as a gross score after a round and never needed such a shot as others worked well enough.Some Pros are so good at that sort of shot that it works for them, but so do other shots. i wish you luck if you can do it and make it benefit your game.

I know a chap who spent months practicing bunker shots till he was exceptional at it, but it didnt lower his h/c nor improve his overall game, he felt better for having that skill which is positive but it didnt benefit his overall game.

 

[TipTopGolf]

What about high trajectory???

My shots have real high trajectory and i have no idea why.

Cause of this height issue im losing distance

 

[USER1999]

For that, we need video, or, just go see your Pro.

 

[TonyN]

that could be anything. shafts, stance, swings, balls, clubs, tee height. Thtas really only something a pro could see.

 

[birdieman]

Oh and very importantly you need a ball with a soft cover ideally, which are the expensive ones. Lots of folk on here say they're a waste of money...they're not if you want your golf going to low handicap territory. Fact.

How low are we talking?? I've played gross par 9s (admittedly, not a full 18) with all sorts of rubbish balls. Properly hit short irons stop decently with any ball. As for spin around the greens, what's so wrong with your own mentioned technique of chip n RUN?

The sort of shot you are talking about, the low punchy "check up" spin shots are ONLY possible with a soft cover ball....that's the only FACT you're talking about. You don't have to play this shot to get the ball around the course in a low score.

To answer your various points -
Nothing wrong with chip and run, if you read my post I did suggest that is actually a better shot!

I didn't suggest anywhere that you need to play the low spinning pitch, I just said it was a shot a lot of good players use.

You can stop any ball with a short iron? -maybe on a wet or soft inland green, you certainly won't stop a Pinnacle or equivalent pebble at Royal Dornoch or Royal Aberdeen or Nairn or most other hard seaside links greens I fear.

Why do you make out I said things I didn't?

 

[USER1999]

Coming out of a bunker on Monday, my partner got screw back on Topflight titanium distance, with a 15 year old sandwedge. It can be done with hard balls, but it is not easy or consistent.