Pride... why is it so hard to swallow.

[kid2]

I have a cousin who plays regular with me. He plays off 20 and hits the ball well but no matter how much I try to help him he never listens...... I see so many small things wrong with what he does but as I was guilty of them when I first started playing...... He's very negative about things and never manages to take any positives at all from things..... Everything he uses has x flex shafts... Because he thinks he needs them.... He always takes the wrong club for the **** in hand.... Has no idea how far he hits distances..... Is there any way you can combat Plato g with someone like this and bring them round to the way you think....its very frustrating playing with him...... No matter how subtle I try and make him realize that he needs to change this or that he just won't do it.... He thinks lessons are a waste of time for him yet he has spent 100's of euros on custom fit clubs when its his grip alignment and swing that are wrong....

 

[lyden]

Just let him get on with it there's a lot to be said for playing the game to enjoy it rather than getting technical. I used to enjoy playing now I've got that many things running through my head I think I'd be happier playing off 28 and just hitting the ball.

 

[Foxholer]

I have a cousin who plays regular with me. He's very negative about things and never manages to take any positives at all from things

Seems to 'run in the family'!

You do seem to have a lot of cousins too!

Insist on playing off levels and keep taking his money!

 

[kid2]

Just let him get on with it there's a lot to be said for playing the game to enjoy it rather than getting technical. I used to enjoy playing now I've got that many things running through my head I think I'd be happier playing off 28 and just hitting the ball.

But his problem is that he's not enjoying it pal.... He's talking about packin it in..... He just won't accept help.....He plays some great shots at times but always wants the perfect outcome...

 

[lyden]

I think its harder to hear from someone you consider your equal, your best bet would be convince him to try a 30 minute lesson and get a pro to talk some sense in to him.

 

[kid2]

Seems to 'run in the family'!

You do seem to have a lot of cousins too!

Insist on playing off levels and keep taking his money!

Foxy.... The way the comps are run at our club for medals he is allowed play off our society tees because of his handicap.... Everyone else below 18 has to play off the whites... If he played off the yellows for a bit he might start enjoying it....... Plus its also stableford off the yellows rather than stroke.

 

[Foxholer]

Foxy.... The way the comps are run at our club for medals he is allowed play off our society tees because of his handicap.... Everyone else below 18 has to play off the whites... If he played off the yellows for a bit he might start enjoying it....... Plus its also stableford off the yellows rather than stroke.

That post makes no sense to me. You didn't mention anything about tees in the OP. Are the Yellows also Society tees? Does he refuse to play off them?

But as I posted originally, play him for cash off levels and keep taking his money! If he never gets the message, so what!

 

[kid2]

That post makes no sense to me. You didn't mention anything about tees in the OP. Are the Yellows also Society tees? Does he refuse to play off them?

But as I posted originally, play him for cash off levels and keep taking his money! If he never gets the message, so what!

Ya pal refuses to play off them... The yellows can be moves up or down at will... Sometimes they can be close enough to the whites too.... He refuses to play off them either through stubborness,pride or because because he thinks he's too good to play off them.....

The scratch cup I won last week was off these same yellow tees but I wasn't bothered too much by them..... Yes they maybe easier but you still have to get the ball in the hole....

 

[dotty001]

write him a letter

 

[Jdb2005]

I would let him get on with it, he will soon realise that what he's doing wrong and when he asks for advice again tell him to get lessons

 

[CliveW]

Everything he uses has x flex shafts... Because he thinks he needs them.... He thinks lessons are a waste of time for him yet he has spent 100's of euros on custom fit clubs when its his grip alignment and swing that are wrong....

If he has spent so much on custom fit clubs, how come he has X flex shafts if they aren't suitable?

 

[Alex1975]

Boost him up, make a fuss of his good shots, point out his strengths. I bet you already do so then maybe straight talk him. "Look cuz, you would be a really good golfer if... X Y Z"

If he quits tell offer to help him find a good pro and work a program.

He is family, you can say what you like!!

 

[richy]

If he has spent so much on custom fit clubs, how come he has X flex shafts if they aren't suitable?

That's what I was thinking

 

[kid2]

If he has spent so much on custom fit clubs, how come he has X flex shafts if they aren't suitable?

My theory behind this Clive is that the fitter gave him these shafts to tighten up his misses rather than help him..I swing a driver at 104mph...Not fast but not too slow either.....His woods feel like im swinging steel bars.......Everyone knows that a stiffer shaft aids dispersion......Add to that he was slicing the ball with everything and now his Irons have been bent 4 degrees upright..... He's only 6ft but has bought 2 wedges in the last 6 months and ordered them both 4 degrees up because all his irons were adjusted to that....Every time he hits a wedge he's missing way left...... I wonder why?.

The crowd that fitted him are pretty well known but its not the first time iv heard stories about people having issues with them......

 

[kid2]

Boost him up, make a fuss of his good shots, point out his strengths. I bet you already do so then maybe straight talk him. "Look cuz, you would be a really good golfer if... X Y Z"

If he quits tell offer to help him find a good pro and work a program.

He is family, you can say what you like!!

Did all this Pal.... In fact this morning he hit some flaking shots...... I pointed out that he should be happy with them and all i got back was.....That should have been on the green.......... Thats after he hit a shot from 200 mtrs pin high but a few yards off the green to the right.......WTF....:mmm:


Iv told him that being off 20 if he took a 5 off every hole on the course then he plays to his handicap.....Now he's quite capable of getting pars and birdies here and there....But it still dont seem to sink in.

 

[Baldy Bouncer]

Stop playing with him and play with somebody else in the comps.
When he asks why you aren`t playing with him, explain that his constant moaning and general demeaner are getting you down and affecting your golf and if he wants to play with you again, he needs to go see a reputable pro for a course of lessons and then and only then will you consider playing golf with him again.