Patrick Reed feud continues......

[HomerJSimpson]

The thing is whatever has happened, proven or not, is there in the background and it's hardly a major shock that it's been dragged up. The Woods mistakes in his private life are often regurgitated. I didn't know about his family feud or any of the other stuff about Reed before his win. I don't like his demeanour on the course (probably due to the RC and his top five in the world comments) but it didn't detract for me, and it shouldn't take anything in the wider golfing world from what was a gutsy and deserved win

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Every sports media outlet has brought it up - it’s part of being a journalist these days and it’s articles that get people reading - Reed history is all over the internet it’s not as if GM has “dragged” up anything and not done anything that isn’t already being done so why would you find it strange ?

GM have also done articles on his golf career on tour and also him on the Empire State Building

 

[Tommo21]

Every sports media outlet has brought it up - it’s part of being a journalist these days and it’s articles that get people reading - Reed history is all over the internet it’s not as if GM has “dragged” up anything and not done anything that isn’t already being done so why would you find it strange ?

GM have also done articles on his golf career on tour and also him on the Empire State Building

Exactly, as you say, it's not as if its already been done. Wait until he wins a major then bring it up again, and in detail. No one brought it up on the eve of the masters. I don't find it strange, but there is no need whatsoever in my opinion. I see one or two media outlets are now questioning why its been re cycled.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Exactly, as you say, it's not as if its already been done. Wait until he wins a major then bring it up again, and in detail. No one brought it up on the eve of the masters. I don't find it strange, but there is no need whatsoever in my opinion. I see one or two media outlets are now questioning why its been re cycled.

I suppose being dug up again depends on your perspective. I wasn't aware of it before this Masters but did wonder why the locals cheered louder for Rory than Reed, now I know why and I understand why I don't warm to the guy.

 

[Tommo21]

The thing is whatever has happened, proven or not, is there in the background and it's hardly a major shock that it's been dragged up. The Woods mistakes in his private life are often regurgitated. I didn't know about his family feud or any of the other stuff about Reed before his win. I don't like his demeanour on the course (probably due to the RC and his top five in the world comments) but it didn't detract for me, and it shouldn't take anything in the wider golfing world from what was a gutsy and deserved win

You didn't know.......you need to get away from this forum for maybe two minutes.

 

[garyinderry]

Reading about how he went about winning those match play games at uni shows he has balls of steel.

Literally only cares about winning and doesn't mind who he rubs up the wrong way. May not win many friends but will stand him well in a sport where you stand on your own two feet to make a living.


Hardly the first sportsman to proclaim 'I am the greatest'. Then go about proving it.

Certainly one of golfs more colourful characters. Wario to spieths Mario. :rofl:

 

[ScienceBoy]

Reading about how he went about winning those match play games at uni shows he has balls of steel.

Literally only cares about winning and doesn't mind who he rubs up the wrong way. May not win many friends but will stand him well in a sport where you stand on your own two feet to make a living.


Hardly the first sportsman to proclaim 'I am the greatest'. Then go about proving it.

Certainly one of golfs more colourful characters. Wario to spieths Mario. :rofl:

^^^^^ This post... it is a good post.

 

[Sports_Fanatic]

From the article:

"In terms of the nitty-gritty details, though, O'Connor couldn't quite pierce the wall of silence put up by the very same people who despised Reed"

"As another media member put it to me, "That was as close as anyone ever got, and they didn't get that close."

The reference on cheating:

"During a qualifying round prior to a tournament, according to sources close to the team, Reed hit a ball far into the rough. When he approached the spot, he found another ball sitting closer to the fairway, and was preparing to hit it when several of his teammates confronted him. Reed pleaded ignorance, but the other Georgia players were convinced he had been caught red-handed trying to cheat."

There are skeletons in his closet, clearly struggled with how to fit in and had issues with drinking, but if that quote is the best that can be done regarding the cheating with a journalist interviewing everyone who apparently despises him (and still considered hearsay) then I'd expect it wouldn't be enough for a committee to take action never mind be a scar for life.

I'd understand the frustration of not being able to get away from what you did effectively as a kid, and would expect settling down and having a child would have changed him substantially. Doesn't necessarily mean he's any better, although the account earlier in the thread with a fan and some of the stories from Ryder Cup teams suggest he may be, but it does mean at some point journalists should consider the person and let things lie unless a new angle is seen.

 

[Dan2501]

There's another reference to cheating in there - he was banned from two College Tournament games for cheating while at Augusta State. The reference above was while he was at Georgia.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

There's another reference to cheating in there - he was banned from two College Tournament games for cheating while at Augusta State. The reference above was while he was at Georgia.

Still far fewer instances of cheating than Tiger.

Or is cheating on his wife OK? And don't even bother claiming that TW faced up to his behaviour.

As LP said the apology was a PR event staged in an attempt to keep sponsors and The PGA Tour onsite.

Ultimately all that matters is, that over those four days, Reed outperformed the field.

 

[Jacko_G]

There's another reference to cheating in there - he was banned from two College Tournament games for cheating while at Augusta State. The reference above was while he was at Georgia.

Reference, no actual evidence. If there was evidence then I'm sure it would have been presented.

I've read a lot of articles about Reed and yet to be convinced. Granted he was an arrogant so and so and had a belief and will to win which rubbed others up the wrong way. However I'm yet to read or be presented with any concrete evidence of it (cheating allegations). Why is there a "wall of silence" surely other players would be lining up to "out him" if they could actually substantiate the claims.

 

[User62651]

Reference, no actual evidence. If there was evidence then I'm sure it would have been presented.

I've read a lot of articles about Reed and yet to be convinced. Granted he was an arrogant so and so and had a belief and will to win which rubbed others up the wrong way. However I'm yet to read or be presented with any concrete evidence of it (cheating allegations). Why is there a "wall of silence" surely other players would be lining up to "out him" if they could actually substantiate the claims.

Cheating is golf is usually underhand and hidden, you know someone is cheating when a ball suddenly appears where there wasn't one before or a ball is in a better lie suddenly or appears back in bounds when it was out, their word v yours, you can't prove it with evidence. When it keeps happening a reputation results, like with Reed.

 

[Jacko_G]

Cheating is golf is usually underhand and hidden, you know someone is cheating when a ball suddenly appears where there wasn't one before or a ball is in a better lie suddenly or appears back in bounds when it was out, their word v yours, you can't prove it with evidence. When it keeps happening a reputation results, like with Reed.

It's not kept happening though. He was confronted at the time before he played the ball by his colleagues. If he had played the ball and holed out then denied he had played the wrong ball then yes I would concur that he had been caught "red handed". That didn't happen and when he was confronted or asked to check his ball he's agreed its not his. Not even close to being caught cheating.

 

[Jensen]

Reading about how he went about winning those match play games at uni shows he has balls of steel.

Literally only cares about winning and doesn't mind who he rubs up the wrong way. May not win many friends but will stand him well in a sport where you stand on your own two feet to make a living.


Hardly the first sportsman to proclaim 'I am the greatest'. Then go about proving it.

Certainly one of golfs more colourful characters. Wario to spieths Mario. :rofl:

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Well said Gary, a great angle of thought

 

[Slab]

It does read an awful lot like he was about to play a wrong ball out the rough, how many of us have done that! (even in comps) I did it on a fairway once!

Now is it such a stretch to imagine if this happened to you on your course and a few few blokes who really don't like you much saw you and stopped you they might (want to) interpret it as you deliberately substituting another ball
(if they actually saw him drop a ball it wouldn't be so wishy washy)

Or am I too trusting

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Why is it that when Mickleson won the WGC in Mexico there were no reference to the Paradise Papers, or when Faldo used to win things people didn't ignore his victory to point out his serial philandering?

 

[londonlewis]

The best time to write an article on Partick Reed is straight after a major win. So surely the timing of it can't be argued.
The content is a different matter, I suppose. Some people might think it's not appropriate, some might not be interested and some might think it's fine. Personally, I don't have a problem with it.

Reed's golf is exciting.
Is he a nice guy? Surely not. He's got no mates, his family hate him and I don't think people on tour like him either. That speaks volumes about the character of the man.
And that's what these articles are about, the man, not just the golfer.

 

[Dan2501]

Why is it that when Mickleson won the WGC in Mexico there were no reference to the Paradise Papers, or when Faldo used to win things people didn't ignore his victory to point out his serial philandering?

People like Phil and Faldo.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

People like Phil and Faldo.

Yeah, Faldo is beloved by the masses

Besides, what does it matter if someone is liked, surely a good journalist will either pick up on the past of both or neither, not pick and choose!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The best time to write an article on Partick Reed is straight after a major win. So surely the timing of it can't be argued.
The content is a different matter, I suppose. Some people might think it's not appropriate, some might not be interested and some might think it's fine. Personally, I don't have a problem with it.

Reed's golf is exciting.
Is he a nice guy? Surely not. He's got no mates, his family hate him and I don't think people on tour like him either. That speaks volumes about the character of the man.
And that's what these articles are about, the man, not just the golfer.

Without sounding rude, you’re missing the point a bit, the articles are all old news, none of it is new or not already in the public domain, therefore, journalists had a choice, talk about the Masters and his performance and speculate on his potential, or, take the lazy option and simply bring up his past.

Maybe, just maybe he’s the way he is because of people whispering behind or back or selling their stories to the media.