Membership cost increase

[Deleted member 23270]

it was just an example.

It doesn't mean the people literally cannot afford it, but puts them at a bigger disadvantage than other people. They may not own smart shoes, I know plenty of people that don't, they don't need them for work and so have no necessity for them.

You also do not know the financial situation of a lot of golfer, they may have inherited clubs, play on the cheapest course around, it could cost them £200 a year in total, then a relative buys them a round at Lytham for their birthday, forcing them to buy a new pair of shoes for £40 would be a big disadvantage, that would be 1/5 of their total golfing annual budget just to be able to go into the clubhouse.

This is simply a hypothetical not saying it is a regular occurrence

I know you are putting a hypothetical situation out there but I seriously can't imagine a pair of shoes being a showstopper. It seems to me to be more a case of people just being awkward about following a few simple rules.

 

[r0wly86]

I know you are putting a hypothetical situation out there but I seriously can't imagine a pair of shoes being a showstopper. It seems to me to be more a case of people just being awkward about following a few simple rules.

it's not about it being a show stopper, just whether it puts one group of people at a bigger disadvantage

that is how indirect discrimination works

 

[Deleted member 23270]

it's not about it being a show stopper, just whether it puts one group of people at a bigger disadvantage

that is how indirect discrimination works

I think it's called life, golf isn't the cheapest sport to play.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Went to an Academy function at my club this evening. I wore a t-shirt, jeans and trainers…hells teeth…that I was not pulled up by anyone must mean my Surrey club is not as fancy-dan posh as my £1800/yr subs should demand…or maybe we are not so trad old-fashioned as we should be.

Hoping that any increase in my subs doesn’t take us over the £2k, as maybe then we’d become dead posh and boring.

Nb…I’d get away with wearing jeans and trainers, though maybe not a t-shirt, in clubhouse any time…but not on the course. And that’s just fine.

 

[Pants]

Went to an Academy function at my club this evening. I wore a t-shirt, jeans and trainers…hells teeth…that I was not pulled up by anyone must mean my Surrey club is not as fancy-dan posh as my £1800/yr subs should demand…or maybe we are not so trad old-fashioned as we should be.

Hoping that any increase in my subs doesn’t take us over the £2k, as maybe then we’d become dead posh and boring.

Nb…I’d get away with wearing jeans and trainers, though maybe not a t-shirt, in clubhouse any time…but not on the course. And that’s just fine.

Just another example to back up my post #480

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Just another example to back up my post #480

Absolutely…??

 

[Orikoru]

I know you are putting a hypothetical situation out there but I seriously can't imagine a pair of shoes being a showstopper. It seems to me to be more a case of people just being awkward about following a few simple rules.

Haha, really? So somebody wearing a lightweight golf polo and shorts plus their white socks (of course), decides not to put on their black office shoes to go with it, and you think they're just being mavericks rather than recognising that that would look absolutely ridiculous?

 

[Deleted member 23270]

Haha, really? So somebody wearing a lightweight golf polo and shorts plus their white socks (of course), decides not to put on their black office shoes to go with it, and you think they're just being mavericks rather than recognising that that would look absolutely ridiculous?

What has that got to do with it? The discussion was about someone not being able to afford a pair of shoes, nobody mentioned the colour of socks.

 

[theoneandonly]

What has that got to do with it? The discussion was about someone not being able to afford a pair of shoes, nobody mentioned the colour of socks.

Sock colour ! Next item on the agenda is untucked shirts

 

[chrisd]

it was just an example.

It doesn't mean the people literally cannot afford it, but puts them at a bigger disadvantage than other people. They may not own smart shoes, I know plenty of people that don't, they don't need them for work and so have no necessity for them.

You also do not know the financial situation of a lot of golfer, they may have inherited clubs, play on the cheapest course around, it could cost them £200 a year in total, then a relative buys them a round at Lytham for their birthday, forcing them to buy a new pair of shoes for £40 would be a big disadvantage, that would be 1/5 of their total golfing annual budget just to be able to go into the clubhouse.

This is simply a hypothetical not saying it is a regular occurrence

I'd like to take up yachting - I didn't realise that the fact I can't afford a yacht means I've been subject to "indirect discrimination" who do I complain to?

 

[evemccc]

I'd like to take up yachting - I didn't realise that the fact I can't afford a yacht means I've been subject to "indirect discrimination" who do I complain to?

Dunno, but there’s plenty of grifters in today’s Britain that the media will ‘celebrate’ - get one of those to champion your case of oppression

 

[Deleted member 23270]

I'd like to take up yachting - I didn't realise that the fact I can't afford a yacht means I've been subject to "indirect discrimination" who do I complain to?

Buy a trainer yacht, cheaper than a black leather yacht ?

 

[KenL]

I'd like to take up yachting - I didn't realise that the fact I can't afford a yacht means I've been subject to "indirect discrimination" who do I complain to?

Do under 30s get a reduction on their yachts? Do they pay a joining fee to the yacht club?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

People aren’t being discriminated against if they are unable to afford a luxury item and at the end of the day Golf is a luxury

Cost when it comes to shoes doesn’t really stack up when a pair of trainers cost more than a basic pair of shoes

And when it comes to dress codes - all clubs have a variety of them

There are clubs with a strict dress code all the way down to clubs with very relaxed dress code

If you don’t like a dress code at a club - don’t go there , if you are a member of club where you think it should change then look to change it

Dress codes are always hot discussion but in the grand scheme of things it’s a lot of empty hot air - people ( majority )don’t not play golf because of a dress code , they don’t stop playing golf because of a dress code

There is an always a club out there that will have a dress code where you are comfortable - whether that be shirts tucked out , football shirts , flip flops , black pink or green socks.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

People aren’t being discriminated against if they are unable to afford a luxury item and at the end of the day Golf is a luxury

Cost when it comes to shoes doesn’t really stack up when a pair of trainers cost more than a basic pair of shoes

And when it comes to dress codes - all clubs have a variety of them

There are clubs with a strict dress code all the way down to clubs with very relaxed dress code

If you don’t like a dress code at a club - don’t go there , if you are a member of club where you think it should change then look to change it

Dress codes are always hot discussion but in the grand scheme of things it’s a lot of empty hot air - people ( majority )don’t not play golf because of a dress code , they don’t stop playing golf because of a dress code

There is an always a club out there that will have a dress code where you are comfortable - whether that be shirts tucked out , football shirts , flip flops , black pink or green socks.

To the bit in bold. Maybe not directly. But it’s the attitudes and behaviours those dress codes represent and the people that enforce them that turn people off golf.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

People aren’t being discriminated against if they are unable to afford a luxury item and at the end of the day Golf is a luxury

Cost when it comes to shoes doesn’t really stack up when a pair of trainers cost more than a basic pair of shoes

And when it comes to dress codes - all clubs have a variety of them

There are clubs with a strict dress code all the way down to clubs with very relaxed dress code

If you don’t like a dress code at a club - don’t go there , if you are a member of club where you think it should change then look to change it

Dress codes are always hot discussion but in the grand scheme of things it’s a lot of empty hot air - people ( majority )don’t not play golf because of a dress code , they don’t stop playing golf because of a dress code

There is an always a club out there that will have a dress code where you are comfortable - whether that be shirts tucked out , football shirts , flip flops , black pink or green socks.

Bottom line is that some folks just don’t like being told what to do…’it’s my way or the highway’ just isn’t appreciated. Well it may be the case that for some it would appear that it’s going to have to be the highway. If you don’t like the rules then either put up with them; work to have them changed - or go elsewhere.

That said…I am a strong advocate for relaxing dress codes from what was traditional, but relaxing them only to some extent and to different extents in different club contexts…hence my t-shirt, jeans and trainers attire at my clubs Academy social in the clubhouse yesterday evening; and wearing jacket and tie at AGM.

 

[KenL]

To the bit in bold. Maybe not directly. But it’s the attitudes and behaviours those dress codes represent and the people that enforce them that turn people off golf.

I would never join a club that required long socks with shorts, but thankfully clubs like that are rare these days.

 

[evemccc]

I would never join a club that required long socks with shorts, but thankfully clubs like that are rare these days.

I’m the opposite - I would LOVE to be able to join a club that does…because the only ones (I can think of) that require it are of the ilk of Brancaster, Rye, Aldeburgh, Sandwich and Deal

I’ll happily play in trousers year-round to be a member at any of those ?

 

[IanM]

I knew abandoning white tie and tails in favour of dinner jackets was the thin end of the wedge!

I’m the opposite - I would LOVE to be able to join a club that does…because the only ones (I can think of) that require it are of the ilk of Brancaster, Rye, Aldeburgh, Sandwich and Deal

I’ll happily play in trousers year-round to be a member at any of those ?

Me too. Actually, the RGS Guildford Rugby Socks are ready for the next trip to Rye!

 

[Golfnut1957]

Can I bring up the story this week of the woman who is suing a food company for $5 million because the packet said microwave for 3.5 minutes and after doing so the food wasn't cooked?

This is the thread for random stuff, right?