M40 Pub

[ger147]

The need for a drink! You don't require a pub to provide cheaper food if that is the public need.

Are you OK if existing restaurants in Service stations sell alcohol while also selling meals?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The need for a drink! You don't require a pub to provide cheaper food if that is the public need.

So are you ok with it being a Harvester or an Ask or Pizza Express ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So are you ok with it being a Harvester or an Ask or Pizza Express ?

They already do - I would say they are a quite different drinking environment from a pub. And as they do what then the need for a pub?

 

[ger147]

They already do - I would say they are a quite different drinking environment from a pub. And as they do what then the need for a pub?

Harvesters took advantage of the same relaxation of legislation to start selling booze on the M1 which has allowed Wetherspoons to open one of their establishments. Harvesters have only been selling booze on the M1 since last June.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

They already do - I would say they are a quite different drinking environment from a pub. And as they do what then the need for a pub?

What sort of environment do you expect in a Weatherspoons ? You do understand it's mainly for food these days - it's not a traditional pub - food is their main outlet these days - just like other pub restaurants as opposed to the red lion whose idea of food is crisps and peanuts.

Ask and Pizza Express both have areas where you can pop in and have a drink and a Harvester is no different to a Wetherspoon.

This Weatherspoons is just like the Brewers Fayre attached to Prem Inns - food outlets for the hotel.

Can you see the difference ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

What sort of environment do you expect in a Weatherspoons ? You do understand it's mainly for food these days - it's not a traditional pub - food is their main outlet these days - just like other pub restaurants as opposed to the red lion whose idea of food is crisps and peanuts.

Ask and Pizza Express both have areas where you can pop in and have a drink and a Harvester is no different to a Wetherspoon.

This Weatherspoons is just like the Brewers Fayre attached to Prem Inns - food outlets for the hotel.

Can you see the difference ?

Yes of course I can - but they are a pub and pubs attract different sorts of customers.

Look - I am simply asking what the NEED for a pub at a service station is when common sense to me says that you are likely to increase the likelihood of someone drinking to over the limit in a pub than in an existing motorway services restaurant selling bottled beer.

I am not saying any more than that.

 

[ger147]

Yes of course I can - but they are a pub and pubs attract different sorts of customers.

Look - I am simply asking what the NEED for a pub at a service station is when common sense to me says that you are likely to increase the likelihood of someone drinking to over the limit in a pub than in an existing motorway services restaurant selling bottled beer.

I am not saying any more than that.

I don't accept that opening a Wetherspoons in a service station is any more likely to result in an increase in drink driving that allowing an existing Harvesters in the same service station to serve alcohol. To me, they are identical outlets and in the same location servicing the same customers.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes of course I can - but they are a pub and pubs attract different sorts of customers.

Look - I am simply asking what the NEED for a pub at a service station is when common sense to me says that you are likely to increase the likelihood of someone drinking to over the limit in a pub than in an existing motorway services restaurant selling bottled beer.

I am not saying any more than that.

It's clear you don't see the difference because they are a pub restaurant - basically cheaper food than restaurants with a more relaxed atmosphere.

They mainly sell food and just like Ask and Harvester they sell alcohol with their food and not just bottled beer - Harvester do draft as well.

It's not a traditional local pub where you will see regulars propping up the bar in the same stool each evening - people ( just like we do ) go there for cheap and cheerful food and in the evening it will be frequented by the people from the hotel next too it.

This isn't a spit and sawdust drinking establishment with your average bar fight and drunks stumbling out at 11.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

OK - so clearly the pub does not change anything. How silly of me to imagine it might increase the likelihood of someone 'grabbing a couple' but I have been straightened out.

 

[Qwerty]

Yes of course I can - but they are a pub and pubs attract different sorts of customers.

Look - I am simply asking what the NEED for a pub at a service station is when common sense to me says that you are likely to increase the likelihood of someone drinking to over the limit in a pub than in an existing motorway services restaurant selling bottled beer.

It isn't a pub

The Nags Head.... Only Fools and Horses..... Is a Pub :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

OK - so clearly the pub does not change anything. How silly of me to imagine it might increase the likelihood of someone 'grabbing a couple' but I have been straightened out.

Then again it "might" not - but it appears you are basing your risk analysis on a different type of establishment

Someone has already pointed out the change in the Harvester on the M1 - has that increased the likelihood ? Or any off the other establishments the RAC has pointed out - have they shown an increase in drink drivers on the motorways or people stopping for a quick couple whilst on long journeys ?

 

[Hacker Khan]

All this back and forth has left me a bit confused now. Can I still have a drink in a Wetherspoons if I have not driven there? Also can I have a meal in a Wetherspoons if it is not in a motorway service station?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

All this back and forth has left me a bit confused now. Can I still have a drink in a Wetherspoons if I have not driven there? Also can I have a meal in a Wetherspoons if it is not in a motorway service station?

Yes :thup:

 

[Robobum]

Can I still get a drink in Wetherspoons @ 9 0'clock in the morning with my fry up with every other wino in town?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Can I still get a drink in Wetherspoons @ 9 0'clock in the morning with my fry up with every other wino in town?

You can indeed :thup:

 

[Robobum]

You can indeed :thup:

Phew!

 

[G1BB0]

I dont see the issue, If I am driving I wont have one alcoholic drink let alone 2. I would be happy to sit there and have a decent cup of coffee at a reasonable price in pleasant surroundings.

Mountain out of a mole hill if you ask me. I look on it as more of a rest stop with alcohol available as opposed to a 'pub'

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I dont see the issue, If I am driving I wont have one alcoholic drink let alone 2. I would be happy to sit there and have a decent cup of coffee at a reasonable price in pleasant surroundings.

You might not...but there are plenty of others who will - that's for me the concern.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You might not...but there are plenty of others who will - that's for me the concern.

That's relevant for every single establishment in the country that's sells alcohol

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That's relevant for every single establishment in the country that's sells alcohol

Yes indeed it is - but the potential consequences are not the same